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Feminist Discrimination

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Vicky1990 · 12/11/2017 22:13

On radio 4 woman's hour the two presenters, Jane Garvey and Jenny Murrey declare themselves as feminist, and as such many of the items discussed discriminate against men.
Is this fair as the BBC is supposed to fair, impartial, and not to discriminate on grounds of gender.
Half the population has no voice on the BBC as it is Male, this does not seem to be in keeping with impartiality to me, what do you think ?.

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AlternativeTentacle · 12/11/2017 22:16

huh?

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LaurieFairyCake · 12/11/2017 22:16

Feminist discussion does not discriminate against men

Women’s hour is not 50% of the bbc

You’re talking shash Hmm

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OddBoots · 12/11/2017 22:17

I think the male voice is very much dominant in the majority of the other BBC programming as well as in the pay scales.

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DullAndOld · 12/11/2017 22:19

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AppleKatie · 12/11/2017 22:21

0/10 for logic, humour and writing style.

Perhaps your wife could help with your written English next time?

(Is that the sort of response you were looking for?)

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WhatWouldGenghisDo · 12/11/2017 22:21

I suppose the problem with women talking on the radio for a whole hour is that's a whole hour where men don't get to talk

Hmm

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hipsterfun · 13/11/2017 00:37

Half the population has no voice on the BBC as it is Male

ROFL.

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KickAssAngel · 13/11/2017 00:43

From your writing, I infer that:
sentence 1 is saying that Garvey/Murrey discriminate against men because they want women to have equal opportunities to men.
sentence 3 is saying the BBC is 100% male, therefore half the population is excluded.

Those two sentences directly contradict each other and neither one of them holds any truth, that's what I think.

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Wtfdoipick · 13/11/2017 00:54

Can I ask you to think about the name of the show and really think about why it is named as it is.

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DJBaggySmalls · 13/11/2017 01:17

If women had a voice in the other 23 hours it wouldn't be called 'womens hour', would it? Womens Hour frequently interview men and talk about issues that concern men. You'd know that if you'd ever listened in.

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FizzyWaterAndElderflower · 13/11/2017 06:47

I'll just leave this here:

buzzfeed

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ladyballs · 13/11/2017 07:16
Grin
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AlternativeTentacle · 13/11/2017 07:20

as such many of the items discussed discriminate against men

Can you give us say 10 examples of this?

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Datun · 13/11/2017 08:23

How does feminism discriminate against men?

One example would do.

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Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 13/11/2017 08:32

If women had a voice in the other 23 hours it wouldn't be called 'womens hour',

Thats a very fair point

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NonStopDisco · 13/11/2017 08:39

women talking... for a whole hour

Well, three-quarters of one!

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hipsterfun · 13/11/2017 09:26

With a dismal 15 Minute Drama chaser.

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Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 13/11/2017 09:30

Maybe depending on who they have on the title should be changed daily

So womans hour (or 45 minutes) and then for the length of time a man is on or they are talking about men so womans 30 minutes, or womans 2.5 minutes

I think that could work...

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Ttbb · 13/11/2017 09:32

It's called positive discrimination. It's what happens when people are too stupid/lazy to deal with issues faced by minority groups and cover up the inequality by having things like boardroom quotas, female only scholarships (where no equivalent exists for men), tokenism etc.

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Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 13/11/2017 09:45

Gid

What must you have thought of childrens hour ttbb

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WhatWouldGenghisDo · 13/11/2017 09:58

Imagine if for 1 week a year they reversed the proportions of women to men on all media.

Women rambling about this and that on all radio channels with 1 dedicated 'mens hour'

All-female panels discussing topics du jour with female hosts with the odd token man looking awkward on the sidelines

Dramas with mostly-female casts where female characters carry most of the dialogue and action and the male characters are pretty or dead

Etc

Just so men can see what it feels like

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Bucketsandspoons · 13/11/2017 10:17

declare themselves feminists so the items discussed discriminate against men

Feminist = discrimination against men. Women talking about women and not carefully centering men at all times = omg the horror.

So 'Women's Hour' should be 'Women Talking About Men and Including them More' hour.

Righto Grin

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GuardianLions · 13/11/2017 10:18

Indeed ghengis - and don't forget that when dramas feature storylines around men they are usually about him being raped complete with gratuitous, harrowing flashback scenes of his fear and powerlessness while violent women loom and crow over..

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QuentinSummers · 13/11/2017 10:55

female only scholarships (where no equivalent exists for men
I think a quota that all courses have to be 50% male, 50% female would be the answer. It would tackle the systematic discrimination that prevents men becoming teachers, nurses and nursery carers. And because the men would only be competing against themselves for the 50%, no positive discrimination is required.
It could extend to graduate programmes at big employers too

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QuentinSummers · 13/11/2017 10:56

And Yes, women's hour is a travesty. We don't hear enough of men's voices.

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