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Bbc news feature on ex prostitute against decriminalisation

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MyFishGeorge Mon 02-Oct-17 20:43:37

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-41349301
Can't seem to make it a working link sorry.

MyFishGeorge Mon 02-Oct-17 20:46:22

Or maybe I can!

QuentinSummers Mon 02-Oct-17 21:06:47

Julie is awesome. Great that has been picked up by the BBC

MyFishGeorge Mon 02-Oct-17 21:15:57

I think it's the first time I've seen abolition as an option described in a mainstream media article. It would so be my preferred option.

DJBaggySmalls Mon 02-Oct-17 21:20:05

Good for her for speaking out. I'm especially tired of seeing lefty bros spouting the happy hooker myth.

QuentinSummers Mon 02-Oct-17 21:23:49

I'm expecting an influx of posters telling us it's a great job shortly hmm

PricklyBall Mon 02-Oct-17 21:43:00

Oh, thanks for starting this thread - I was about to post a link to this. Excellent article and as you say, so glad to see an article in the mainstream press favouring the Nordic approach. (I too await the influx of lefty dude-bros, p*nters etc telling us how wonderful it is). The bit about legalised brothels insisting the women agree to "all-inclusive" deals where they no longer get any say in what sex acts they will perform and which they can refuse is particularly chilling.

Lottapianos Mon 02-Oct-17 21:46:41

Great article, thanks for sharing. The 'all inclusive' deal idea is sickening, if not surprising

MyFishGeorge Mon 02-Oct-17 21:50:38

Just been looking up Julie Bindel. Wow she is so coherent and strong in interviews.

LassWiTheDelicateAir Mon 02-Oct-17 22:18:39

I'm expecting an influx of posters telling us it's a great job shortly

Or that she wasn't a prostitute or she is making it up.

DeleteOrDecay Mon 02-Oct-17 23:16:42

Really good article thanks for sharing.

Lottapianos Tue 03-Oct-17 08:14:11

MyFish, I totally agree. She's a great speaker, really clear and inspirational. I think she's actually much better in a spoken interview than in print

hackmum Tue 03-Oct-17 09:13:19

I heard Julie Bindel on Woman's Hour last week talking about her new book - she was brilliant. So articulate and cogent, but also calm and measured.

Very pleased to see the BBC run this article.

MadamMinacious Tue 03-Oct-17 09:14:29

I'm so please to see this article. It makes a change from the happy hooker line trotted out frequently (and which can't possibly be the norm). It seems obvious to me that decriminalising prostitution leaves the door open for women being harmed more as prostitution is further commercialised - seen here in the nauseating 'all inclusive deal' or in Germany's mega brothels - the thought of which just about knocks me sick.

I'm sure a lot of people on here have already come across them but just in case you haven't and want to read www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/02/if-you-think-decriminalisation-will-make-prostitution-safe-look-germanys-mega

s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/projects/welcome-to-paradise/

Decriminalisation just allows pimps and brothel owners to make girls into commodities to a greater extent than they are now. They end up with even less autonomy over how and what they sell and become almost part of a fast food version of prostitution and they will be undercut by chains who offer girls at cheaper rates. Decriminalisation is a horror show in my opinion. But as someone said above, no doubt the influx of people 'who work in the industry' or who know many girls who work there will come and tell me how wrong I am.

FTR - (for those people in advance) you won't change my mind on this, my views aren't a knee-jerk reaction to anything they are the product of years of reading, speaking to people and careful consideration so don't even bother.

MyFishGeorge thank you for posting the article it was good to read.

Gingernaut Sun 03-Dec-17 15:33:31

Julie Bindel's book continues to get pretty good reviews.

From mainstream media publications, no less.

www.newsweek.com/banishing-myth-happy-hooker-new-book-brands-prostitution-human-rights-726016

LassWiTheDelicateAir Sun 03-Dec-17 16:00:47

As did Kat Barnyard's Pimp State

Pimp State: Sex, Money and the Future of Equality by Kat Banyard – review

www.theguardian.com/books/2016/jun/20/pimp-state-sex-money-future-equality-kat-banyard-review?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

www.ft.com/content/115864f0-2cc3-11e6-bf8d-26294ad519fc

Sentimentallentil Sun 03-Dec-17 17:08:35

I’m so glad for this board.

I too am so sick of the lefty bros and the cool girls saying that prostitution is empowering in any way.

QueenLaBeefah Sun 03-Dec-17 17:37:03

There was a very powerful documentary called Mega Brothels filmed in Germany. It is very disturbing and why capitalism shouldn't play top trumps with women's basic human rights.

cuirderussie Sun 03-Dec-17 20:51:53

Rachel Moran's book is excellent too. She got the predictable backlash from people calling her a liar, and actually hunted down the policeman who raided a Dublin brothel she was working in aged sixteen, and interviewed him on TV. It was quite touching; he had been shocked and upset to find a sixteen year old in a brothel and was delighted to see her doing so well in life. But depressing that she had to go to such lengths to silence the doubters.

scrabbler3 Sun 03-Dec-17 21:02:46

I used to be one of those liberals who favoured legalising prostitution. Then, my best mate had a baby daughter and I realised at some point that I would not be at all happy if she went in for it. So, I was advocating legalised whoring for "other people's" daughters but it wasn't good enough for my best mate's. That made me realise that it isn't good for anybody.

WhatWouldGenghisDo Sun 03-Dec-17 22:13:03

How can "all-inclusive" possibly be legal even if sex work is fully decriminalised? It does away with even a pretence of consent!

BadenBadenBadenBaden Sun 03-Dec-17 22:15:26

cuirderussie which programme/channel was that on?

LassWiTheDelicateAir Sun 03-Dec-17 23:02:07

cuirderussie which programme/channel was that on?

I think it was this one. It was revolting.

The Mega Brothel - All 4
www.channel4.com/programmes/the-mega-brothel

BadenBadenBadenBaden Sun 03-Dec-17 23:08:30

Thanks Lass.

cuirderussie Mon 04-Dec-17 00:01:07

mobile.twitter.com/RachelRMoran/status/849993559008825345/video/1

She linked the clip on her Twitter page, not sure what the programme was.

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