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FINALLY! The Guardian writes something that is not Gender critical bashing

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AssignedPerfectAtBirth Sun 24-Sep-17 18:20:45

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/24/violence-against-women-transgender-debate?CMP=share_btn_tw

JynOdan Sun 24-Sep-17 18:33:14

The Guardian? THE GUARDIAN?!
Wow, is the world slowly waking up?

Ekphrasis Sun 24-Sep-17 18:37:22

But it's a letter - they've published it but it's not one of their journalists writing it. Though it's extremely important and a very good piece.

AdalindSchade Sun 24-Sep-17 18:38:04

18 months ago they would NEVER have printed that.

AwkwardSquad Sun 24-Sep-17 18:40:11

Hadley Freeman last weekend

AssignedPerfectAtBirth Sun 24-Sep-17 18:41:48

Competition is a great think, dontcyaknow? The Times was on the case before them and it make them look unreasonable

AdalindSchade Sun 24-Sep-17 18:42:32

They haven't included the fact that action for trans health, who advised the government on the self identification policy proposal, incited the attack on Maria and tweeted in support of violence against women (terfs). That element is pretty important.

AssignedPerfectAtBirth Sun 24-Sep-17 18:42:49

thing blush

AssignedPerfectAtBirth Sun 24-Sep-17 18:45:19

It's a funny old thing, because women are half the population of the world and trans are less than 1%. Now who would you really want to piss off?

Elendon Sun 24-Sep-17 18:47:04

I await the backlash to this letter.

Great to see such wonderful women signing it.

It's a start.

HemlockIsSpartacus Sun 24-Sep-17 19:10:45

I'm impressed they've printed it

Ekphrasis Sun 24-Sep-17 19:17:35

Yes I saw Hadly's piece- had forgotten that.

Would like to see more from others.

I can't help thinking whether her piece was more 'allowable' since the BBC Gender programme in the summer.

Backingvocals Sun 24-Sep-17 19:30:27

About bloody time - although it's not their editorial. The way they reported on the attempted murder by a transwoman of an athletics official a while back was the day I stopped reading the Guardian. Will see if I can find it.

Ktown Sun 24-Sep-17 19:33:42

Hadley plus one bloke at the guardian have both skirted around the issue.
Very subtle though - neither have said too much.
I think the argument should be focused on the kids first.
Mermaids is surely going to go the same way as kids company. The sort of dodgy stuff they are pushing isn't going to be acceptable for much longer.

Backingvocals Sun 24-Sep-17 19:34:00

Attempted murder. When have you read a similarly sympathetic piece about a would be murderer who all but destroyed the life of their victim ?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/17/jailed-transgender-fell-runner-thought-uk-athletics-was-trying-to-kill-her

fruitlovingmonkey Sun 24-Sep-17 19:59:26

That's an awful article backingvocals.
I must say I am enjoying my subscription to The Times. This is far too little, too late from the Guardian.

NotAgainYoda Sun 24-Sep-17 20:06:43

I also liked Hadley Freeman's piece

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theendisnotnigh Sun 24-Sep-17 20:18:10

Backing,
I wrote and complained to the Guardian. They told me that the reporter was unaware of Lauren Jeska's transgender status -it hadn't come up in court - obviously a reporter with limited skills.
That was also the moment when I parted company with the Guardian - when a paper I respected starts deliberately telling lies and manipulating news to promote a particular ideology, that's the day that I stop reading them.

Blanchefleur Sun 24-Sep-17 20:43:06

About time! I wonder whether this letter was sent to other newspapers or organisations too?

So, the Guardian is inviting us to 'Join the debate – email guardian.letters@theguardian.com' . Let's get writing!

TheCountessofFitzdotterel Sun 24-Sep-17 21:33:08

I wouldn't give the Guardian too much credit - it's not like they actually wrote it. And in a sane world it would be pretty uncontroversial, speaking out against violence against women.

Fwiw, the historian Tom Holland was magnificent on Twitter earlier.

Terfing Sun 24-Sep-17 21:39:55

I agree: it is too little, too late. The Guardian threw women under the bus over this, and other issues. For this, I will never give them my money or respect.

Datun Sun 24-Sep-17 23:27:22

Today 18:41 AssignedPerfectAtBirth

Competition is a great think, dontcyaknow? The Times was on the case before them and it make them look unreasonable

Exactly what I was thinking. Self-interested sexist cowards. And judging by the women on this thread, too little too late.

QueenLaBeefah Sun 24-Sep-17 23:31:07

Nah. Won't be reading or buying the Guardian ever again. It has repeatedly thrown women under the bus and they can go fuck themselves.

AssignedPerfectAtBirth Sun 24-Sep-17 23:35:33

Yes well I still have my newspaper delivery so need to walk to the newsagents to cancel. Which will prop take about 6 weeks based on my time to pay the bill blush.

Will just change it for the Times. There's a sentence I didn't think I would write

MorrisZapp Sun 24-Sep-17 23:37:48

Too little too late. Their coverage of the transgender stabbing was utterly appalling.

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