Help me work out why this makes me feel uncomfortable?

[LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle]

I'm not a prolific poster on this topic, so I hope you don't mind me starting this, I have looked and I don't think there's another thread on this- if there is....sorry!
I am a gender critical (TERF??- probably! ) feminist and this article has really unsettled me, but I can't quite articulate why, so forgive me if I ramble!
"bi gender doll"

Basically man starts to transition, then decides that actually he really likes being "feminine" looking, but also really likes having a penis, so takes a weird mix of oestrogen, testosterone and viagra to "balance" (wtf?) their hormones.

Here's where I am conflicted....

They seem to be somewhat "gender critical", so don't think it should matter that one day they present as "male", and the next "female", and shouldn't have to change their genitals to match their clothes. (which I agree with!)
But then reading between the lines they can't develop relationships with women, and seem a bit peeved by that, which leads me to think that actually they are an entitled shit, like a lot of TRAs, and seem baffled by the fact that straight women don't want to sleep with someone who presents as female, and lesbians don't want a woman with a dick.

Plus the whole "plastic doll" thing is just so unutterably disgusting I don't know where to start with it...ffs.

actual quote.....
""She is my bi-gender doll, some days she's Aria and other days she's Alex, she has to live by what she wants and what she feels............Aria is one of my special dolls, I like her character and personality a lot."

Just uuurrggghhh.

This is another issue for me....transing often seems to be linked to the whole plastic surgery thing of over exaggerated, fake "femininity" and pornographic/ page 3 type shit.
The quote above is from this manager of "Plastics of Hollywood" (just that name makes me want to scrub with bleach- just eeewww!)

I don't know what I'm trying to say....can much wiser people than me articulate why this whole article makes me feel angry??? (and slightly icky!?)

[Terrylene]

It is all - me, me, me and my special bubble and what I look like.

Vanity.

Not pretty.

The maid's outfit made me laugh.

[LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle]

Yeah I think that might be part of it Terry.....the self obsessed nature of the whole thing.

And the cheesey maids outfit just sorta goes to prove my point about "playing" the outdated (imo) perception of "femininity" and "sexiness" as dictated by the The Sun & co in a fetishistic way, that most biological women can't relate to at all.

They want women to sleep with them, and are pissed that they "struggle" to find love.... interestingly they don't specify what sexual orientation they think these women should have- which I find v interesting....do they expect straight women to overlook the "feminine" aspect, or do they expect lesbians to overlook the penis??
Either way seems unlikely.

[QueenLaBeefah]

Originally a very good looking gay man but now someone who can't pass as a woman. Straight men are never going to to fancy him/her/they. Very sad.

[LassWiTheDelicateAir]

Originally a very good looking gay man but now someone who can't pass as a woman. Straight men are never going to to fancy him/her/they. Very sad

It is. He was very handsome as a man. He clearly has had feminisation facial surgery which has not worked.

[hamburgler]

Do you not know bisexuals exist?

[ImSorryAuntLydia]

Do many bisexuals want to have sex with a man with breasts? I'd have thought that was a pretty niche sexual orientation.

The article suggests he is only interested in women, so wasn't a gay man previously.

[ImSorryAuntLydia]

And generally - ugh to referring to a group of surgically modified people as 'dolls'.

[ImSorryAuntLydia]

Actually, I think it's good he is talking openly about wanting to keep his penis for sex. One of the most horrifying things I've read about transing kids, I think it was on a thread about Jazz Jennings, was that they will never have normal sexual functioning. Yes, this 'dolls' struggles to find sexual/romantic partners, but at least it's a possibility for him! In the push to create a generation of trans people who pass better superficially, they are pushing infertility and sexual dysfunction onto these kids who do not understand what they are losing.

[cinnamonwoman]

"I think male or female, is a mindset our society has created to give a simple solution to the complexities of gender reality."


Wow...just so, so dumb...

[IndominusRex]

"Aria believes a lot of the discrimination towards people who live as both sexes stem from the porn industries portrayal of 'she-males'."
Shouldn't that read 'the fetishisation of transgenderism and hyper sexualised 'female' bodies comes from the porn industry.

[moofolk]

Hmmmm 'one of the special dolls', so smart she confuses the other dolls with her clever words.

Bleurgh.

And it's a plug for a TV show I'll make sure never to watch.

[busyboysmum]

Oh dear oh dear. Yes I would think it'll be very difficult for him to find anybody to sleep with him. There must be a very small niche market of bisexual people who accept both breasts and a penis in the same package. And I'm sure it's going to be even harder for him to find true love now he's mutilated himself like that. What a handsome man he was and what a shame.

[DamnDeDoubtanceIsSpartacus]

He is a man despite the hormones.

I wonder if the juggernaut continues unchecked where we will be in fifty years, transhumanism looks likely.

[busyboysmum]

I always think this about anyone who mutilates themselves with plastic surgery for attention by the way not just trans people. The Barbie doll women and the Ken men and people who try to make themselves look like famous pop stars or animals etc I think they must be really messed up individuals and I don't think the doctors should be enabling them like this.

[Wheresmytaco]

Do you not know bisexuals exist? hmm

do you not know what bisexual means?

[DJBaggySmalls]

"Everyone is so polarised, they believe a person has to be either man or woman, which is wrong, they are not familiar with the gender spectrum."

Is it transphobia? Or are people just not interested in people who present as the wrong sex for their orientation?

[sillage]

"do they expect straight women to overlook the 'feminine' aspect, or do they expect lesbians to overlook the penis?"

Well put, I'd love to see this expanded on.

For instance, I'd like to hear people willing to die on the hill of "born this way" explain what they expect sexually of the women married to men who decide to to identify as transgender. Is she a lesbian now, or was she always a lesbian and didn't know it?

[busyboysmum]

I just worry these people are setting themselves up for a world of hurt. Who are they going to date?

If they have the surgery they are also effectively sterilizing themselves so take any one who wants a family out of the equation as well.

As a heterosexual woman I wouldn't want a modified woman who has to pump up her penis. Nor would I want a man with a penis who wears womens clothing and has breasts. I can't see lesbians wanting that either.

And I can't see many heterosexual men fancying a woman with a penis either. Or a gay man going for a woman with a penis she has to inflate.