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Government survey of LGBT experiences

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emochild · 23/07/2017 22:04

clicky link

Question 'what sex were you assigned at birth?'

Gah!

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SerendipityFelix · 23/07/2017 22:52

'Do you identify as intersex?'

How can you identify as intersex?!?!? It's a bloody medical condition. It's like saying do you identify as cerebral palsy or something (first congenital condition I could think of)

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LaSourciere · 23/07/2017 22:56

Just completed it.
FFS I CANT BELIEVE IT HAS COME TO THIS.

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SerendipityFelix · 23/07/2017 23:00

Keeps referring to 'being LGBT' as well. As if 'LGBT' is a single status.

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SerendipityFelix · 23/07/2017 23:15

I didn't see the 'assigned at birth' question? I thought it said 'what do you identify as' to which I answered 'other' and stated I don't 'identify as' anything, I am a woman by virtue of being an adult human female and I reject the concept of gender.

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sticklebrix · 24/07/2017 07:41

FFS I CANT BELIEVE IT HAS COME TO THIS.

Absolutely. I am so sad for my daughters.

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SylviaPoe · 24/07/2017 07:58

It only asks the assigned at birth question if you don't identify as some kind of trans identity.

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StealthPolarBear · 24/07/2017 08:01

It worries me that this is restricted to a small group of people. Surely everyone should get to have their say.

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SerendipityFelix · 24/07/2017 08:02

How can they prevent people from answering more than once? It didn't ask for any kind of id/email or anything

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SerendipityFelix · 24/07/2017 08:02

Btw, this isn't a consultation on gender recognition, it's a survey on experiences of people who 'are LGBT' living in the UK

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QuentinSummers · 24/07/2017 09:20

I've done it. Because I ticked "agender" in the gender identity box I got to answer all the trans questions. It just goes to show how absolutely ridiculous trans theory is. I'm just female with no gender identity.

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sticklebrix · 24/07/2017 10:51

I did the same Quentin and agree that the theory is ludicrous. I am apparently agender because I don't have a gender identity. Who knew?

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Elendon · 24/07/2017 12:07

I've completed the survey but I still don't understand why sexual orientation is aligned with being trans.

Identifying as 'intersex' is an insult to those born intersex (which is complex, no one is actually in the middle, or inbetween).

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BeyondDrinksAndKnowsThings · 24/07/2017 12:24

I have multiple gender identities, so each of them will have to complete this...

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Elendon · 24/07/2017 12:48

I've done it again. I thought of myself as female only.

Conclusion is I'm constantly under scrutiny regarding my appearance and behaviour. Which is true.

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BeyondDrinksAndKnowsThings · 24/07/2017 12:52

I might feel intersex in a bit and point out that "feeling intersex" is ridiculously offensive. Hmm

Feeling disabled is also on there, but at least that aligns with the social model of disability, so it has some background.

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MrsWooster · 24/07/2017 12:58

Many 'prefer not to say's later, you get chance to comment:
"I am a woman, this is a biological fact. I may chose to present as a different gender but this does not affect the biological fact. I feel very strongly that discrete women's and men's spaces are for biological women and men. My CHOICE to identify as a different gender doesn't override the fundamental rights of biological identity."

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AssignedMentalAtBirth · 24/07/2017 13:09

That survey is big steaming pile of horseshit, written by some science illiterate fuckwit.

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venusinscorpio · 24/07/2017 13:19

Yes, I thought that, Assigned. Intersex is not an identity. "LGBT" is not a single issue monolith.

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scalliondays · 24/07/2017 13:33

I completed it by ticking lots of 'prefer not to say' - don't feel bad about this as I'm a woman who thinks that gender is a restrictive and outdated concept and given that I don't wear much makeup and can change a car tyre I probably can lay reasonable claim to being non-binary... I ticked that they can reprint my comments although I doubt that my very reasonable views will see the light of day anywhere.
I'm so angry about this. Women's rights will be set back 200 years.

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IndominusRex · 24/07/2017 14:00

As many gender critical people as possible need to complete this.

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Lemonjello · 24/07/2017 14:13

I might complete it more than once a day to properly account for my gender fluidity Wink

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SpaghettiAndMeatballs · 24/07/2017 14:20

Plus of course it's meaningless. I'm a British Citizen, but not currently resident in the UK - exactly what are they doing to stop me taking the survey anyway

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BeyondDrinksAndKnowsThings · 24/07/2017 15:23

Lemon, I so haven't already done it twice today... Grin

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Lemonjello · 24/07/2017 15:26

Oh no, of course not Beyond. Wouldn't want to fuck up such a thoroughly researched, scientifically acuitate, nuanced and carefully worded survey Grin

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Fluffypinkpyjamas · 24/07/2017 15:30

FFS I CANT BELIEVE IT HAS COME TO THIS

This. Utterly fucking ludicrous and scary. Where are the people with common fucking sense that can STOP this shit?!

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