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Chris Hahn, I Love Dick

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Parrcful · 19/05/2017 23:30

This is the first time I've posted here... All I can say this is an extremely brilliant programme & I shall start buying her books 💞😍

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Parrcful · 19/05/2017 23:33
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Parrcful · 19/05/2017 23:40

Kraus

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msrisotto · 20/05/2017 07:43

Can you tell us Anyang about it? I've never heard of it.

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msrisotto · 20/05/2017 07:44

I don't know what Anyang is! I meant anything!

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 20/05/2017 10:16

It's based on this book, which sounds like a huge pile of self- obsessed tosh.

I Love Dick: the book about relationships everyone should read

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/nov/02/i-love-dick-sex-chris-kraus-men-women-book?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

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DJBaggySmalls · 20/05/2017 15:49

Sounds like a womans journey into emancipation. I guess that could sound like self obsession.

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 20/05/2017 19:04

Sounds like a womans journey into emancipation. I guess that could sound like self obsession

Really? A woman turning a real life man who isn't interested in her into a book and obsessing over him? If it were the other way round it would be called stalkerish and creepy.

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DJBaggySmalls · 20/05/2017 19:25

It sounds like an allegory of womens life under patriarchy.

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 20/05/2017 19:47

It sounds like a stalker's memoir. Just because a woman has written it doesn't mean it's any good.

How exactly is obsessing about a man who isn't interested in you and appropriating him for a book justified?

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 22/05/2017 21:28

There is an interview in today's Guardian by Jill Soloway who directs the TV series.

Soloway has come out as "non-binary" and insists on being called "they"

"They" also think"the words male and female describe who we used to be"


And "they" agree woman shouldn't mean a particular thing, that it can mean anything

And the usual stuff about men who menstruate and trans women getting offended by the word vagina culminating with

I identify as trans, which means that I am not seeking to synthesize my appearance with the label assigned to me at birth and instead am opting to live in a space where a label other than male or female is used to define me

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/may/21/transparents-jill-soloway-the-words-male-and-female-describe-who-we-used-to-be

So far as the book I read the first 10 pages in Waterstones yesterday and still think it is self-obsessed, pretentious tosh.

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witchmountain · 24/05/2017 23:25

I read the book. It's tedious and doesn't in any way live up to the "feminist classic" claim. It's the kind of book you might read at 17 because it seems clever.

A few weeks after I finished it I spotted the person next to me on the tube reading it. I asked how she was getting on with it and it turned out she was equally disappointed with it.

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