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BeyondUser24601 Tue 18-Apr-17 19:28:43

So, hold-your-nose on feminism and vote for who?
As there is not a single actual feminist option out there... sad

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans Tue 18-Apr-17 19:33:01

I'm wondering whether we'll have any last-minute election webchats.

LassWiTheDelicateAir Tue 18-Apr-17 20:32:18

Conservative or Liberal Democrat. The constitutional issues are the most important for me. I will look into which party has the better chance of beating the SNP.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel Tue 18-Apr-17 20:45:59

The saddest thing is that the WEP would have been a useful protest vote (and not entirely a wasted vote - they obviously wouldn't have won any seats but might have put up a decent showing in total if they had caught women voters' imaginations) but the way they have turned out they aren't really very women centred anyway.

IAmAmy Tue 18-Apr-17 22:52:45

I was rather looking forward to being able to vote in the next General Election. Alas, it's now to come a year too early for me.

I'm not sure who I'd vote for if I was able to. I've always felt I was a Labour supporter but am not exactly filled with confidence by Corbyn. My seat is a Conservative/Labour marginal and often a "bellwether" so there'd be little point in voting for anyone other than those two, although the Lib Dems will give it a go campaiging on the "Brexit" issue.

IAmAmy Tue 18-Apr-17 22:53:25

The WEP weren't overwhelmingly far away from getting a seat on the GLA last year if I remember right.

Xenophile Tue 18-Apr-17 23:25:15

Labour, it's the only way of getting rid of the slimy Tory shitehawk incumbent. Unless the CPS gets rid of him first.

LonginesPrime Tue 18-Apr-17 23:34:03

I really wish I could get behind the WEP.

I even went on their website again today in case they'd written something other than 'if everyone could just be nice to everyone else, then that would be just lovely mkaaay'.

They're like a disappointing Tinder date where the photos look amazing, you look forward to meeting the person all week and make a real effort to impress, but then when saturday comes, you realise the photos were from five years ago and the person is actually as dull as dishwater with zero personality.

I sooo wanted to like them!

scottishdiem Tue 18-Apr-17 23:42:28

I will look into which party has the better chance of beating the SNP.

Depends on the seat obviously and the candidate (the SNP have some interesting people on their panels to be MPs and MSPs). Of course, the SNP will still be the massive party in Scotland and its a Westminster election so the dynamic is different again. If SNPs independence policy, which means nothing in a Westminster election, is the most important thing for you then I'd be interested in what your approach will be in the council elections. Local people for local issues or making sure your council, which has no say in independence, is not about local people and local issues (Labour, Tory & Lib Dem local election campaign seems to be about independence. You'd think it would be about schools and things that are local).

LassWiTheDelicateAir Tue 18-Apr-17 23:53:51

Oh and I am a Labour Party member but I won't be voting Labour.

OlennasWimple Wed 19-Apr-17 01:22:21

I would also have liked to vote WEP but no bloody way (I've said it before, but it's so painful that we lost Sandi from the News Quiz and only got the WEP in exchange)

I think I will vote Conservative - but with a very heavy heart as I am not a natural Tory whatsoever

QuentinSummers Wed 19-Apr-17 07:49:42

Lib dem. I also found out yesterday that all their policies are voted on by their members so might join up to vote against their stupid decriminalisation of prostitution plan.
I live in an uber safe Tory seat headed by a hard Brexiteer so it will make fuck all difference. 2 years ago when he was out canvassing one of his aides knocked on the door and asked me if I wanted to put some lipstick on to meet him. Erm, NO!!

soapboxqueen Wed 19-Apr-17 08:09:50

Not 100% happy with any party. Obviously I have issues with some more than others.

Conservatives are conservative

Labour - JC, toxic idealism, anti-sematism

Lib dem - pro-full decriminalisation, very grumpy about trans criticism

Greens - non-women

WEP - What is a woman? Not sure.

I'm a lib dem member but will probably vote labour. The crux for me is that we have a labour majority, with a strong tory vote. Everyone else is no where so in reality I have two choices.

Vote labour to help secure none tory.

Vote anything else and risk tory.

BeyondUser24601 Wed 19-Apr-17 08:59:03

That pretty much sums it up for me too soapbox.

I'm in a relatively safe labour area, so do I vote someone else (would have been green til the non-men bullshit) and risk that the tories win, or vote labour just in case my vote is needed. Luckily I do like my mp, so that makes voting labour a lot easier to palate.

At least the one benefit of an election now, is that it gives us five years to sort out a mn feminist party grin - will you join us lass, I know you don't usually consider yourself a feminist?

IAmAmy Wed 19-Apr-17 09:11:53

The Lib Dems and Greens don't seem too good for women (then again no-one really is at the moment). It's quite something how many young voters seem to have forgotten the coalition government and are saying they'll vote Lib Dem from what I've heard from coverage so far.

Why are many posters here not too impressed with the WEP? Apologies if this is diverting the thread or I'm missing something obvious. If I'd been able to vote in the London Mayor and GLA elections last year I'd probably have voted for Sophie Walker as first choice in the former and the WEP in the list vote on the latter so am interested in why many feminists here aren't keen.

BeyondUser24601 Wed 19-Apr-17 09:22:57

I'll see if I can find you the link Amy - it's a good read...

BeyondUser24601 Wed 19-Apr-17 09:27:16

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/guest_posts/2502963-Guest-post-Sandi-Toksvig-The-time-is-right-for-the-Womens-Equality-Party

FlaviaAlbia Wed 19-Apr-17 09:28:56

I'm in NI in a seat lost by the Alliance to the DUP last time. I have a lot of respect for Naomi Long so I'll be voting Alliance.

I wouldn't vote for the DUP even if hell freezes over. Sanctimonious, self serving idiots who believe they should be the gate keepers of a womans bodies.

BeyondUser24601 Wed 19-Apr-17 09:29:52

Soph36 is Sophie walker

soapboxqueen Wed 19-Apr-17 09:32:02

beyonduser Was that 'you don't consider yourself a feminist' aimed at me individually or just at the world in general?

FlaviaAlbia Wed 19-Apr-17 09:33:54

Also check out the Women's Equality Party Bath's Facebook page Amy

You'll need to scroll down for the apology but a mod got trigger happy with the ban hammer and accusations when women complained about a link they posted from everyday feminism describing how male privilege in trans women is a myth hmm

They've slapped the mods wrist now by the sounds of it, but still...

BeyondUser24601 Wed 19-Apr-17 09:54:15

It was aimed at lass upthread, she frequently says that she doesn't consider herself a feminist smile

Xenophile Wed 19-Apr-17 09:54:30

Soapbox... no, it was to the poster called Lass.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel Wed 19-Apr-17 09:54:37

Yeah, the WEP mod called women who objected to the article 'manhaters'. The feminism that thinks that is OK is not my feminism...

Xenophile Wed 19-Apr-17 09:54:52

Oops, x-post, will teach me to make a brew, won't it!

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