Green Party are at it again

[HermioneWeasley]

We are "non males" again

[Xenophile]

Yup, women are just defective men

[conserveisposhforjam]

Is there really NO-ONE in the greens talking about this? It's just so wrong...

And why aren't men non-females anyway?

[SpeakNoWords]

"Non-male"" ffs... strange how men are never "non-women" though.

[TheVermiciousKnid]

Right, it's definitely time to cancel my Green party membership.

[MorrisZapp]

Is that post a wind up? What the fuck does non male actually mean?

[HermioneWeasley]

Yes, we are defined by our defective maleness, because being a man is the default human

[TigersOfAlexpolis]

I think non-women have totally lost the plot.

[FreshwaterSelkie]

Non-male, ffs.

They wouldn't give a shit if women objected, but has anyone pointed out to them that in the rush to be right-on, they've also chucked trans men under the bus?

I'd have thought that group would be very under represented in politics.

[MrsWooster]

knid before you resign, can you ask wtf they are thinking?

[VestalVirgin]

Well, this is clearly just for teh trans - no actual woman would want to travel to Istanbul in the current political climate there.

German Greens are apparently at least polite enough to address their audience as "Women, men, not-men", if I recall it correctly.
(It was no "ladies and gentleman" speech but more of a "we have such great women, and men, and not-men")

[LaPharisienne]

Huh?!

Is this an attempt to be inclusive? I suspect a ham-fisted such attempt by a non-native English speaker...

[Xenophile]

Nope, this is a "thing" for the Greens now.

Although I do sincerely wish you were right LaPharisienne

[conserveisposhforjam]

I just don't understand how - in all the critical thinking about gender which is clearly taking place in the Green Party to generate this kind of shit - no-one has seen that the reason there is a demand for 'non-male' and, apparently, no demand for 'non-female' is precisely because 'non-male' is a product of male privilege. It just seems so bloody obvious!

[LuisCarol]

Is that part of the Green Party?

[HumphreyCobblers]

They have form for this LaPharisienne.

I thought they may have learned better but it appears not.

[venusinscorpio]

Fucking idiots.

[LuisCarol]

According to the FYEG website (that has produced this) "FYEG is the European umbrella organisation for Young Green organisations from all over the continent, from Georgia to Ireland and from Cyprus to Norway." (i.e. it's not The Green Party)

The website does not seem to link to or mention the UK Green Party or the Young Greens, (the youth wing of the UK Green Party).

The UK Green Party and the Young Greens websites also do not seem to mention FYEG that I can find, although wikipedia says Young Greens are "affiliated to" FYEG.

[HermioneWeasley]

UK Green Party have used this term before

[Prawnofthepatriarchy]

This is just more fucking bollocks. I'm getting sick and tired of all this.

[0phelia]

WTF can't they just say "female"?
Are they scared to say female or something?
Is female a new taboo?

[HermioneWeasley]

I'm afraid so ophelia saying "women" when referring to things like periods, abortion, FGM, pregnancy, breastfeeding etc is terribly upsetting, sorry, triggering for women who identify as men and men who identify as women.

So we talk about "people" who need abortions, and "birthing individuals" and the fundamental role of female biology in women's inequality and oppression gets erased.

[IAmAmy]

As has been said, they've used "non-men" before, I think they or a group of theirs decreed that term had to be used not "women" though not sure the party adopted it as a whole. It's just ridiculous, I find it incredibly frustrating this pandering to a certain faction.

On what I believe to be a similar note I've even been told off at my school's Feminist Society before for talking about abortion rights and periods as affecting women

[DeviTheGaelet]

Wish there was an eye roll emoticon.
The bit where it says "to counter white males domination in politics" comes across to me as if they are also lumping BAME men in as non-male. Idiots.

[conserveisposhforjam]

Someone told me they have to have a man and a woman on every decision making panel? Only now it's a man (man) and a non-male (might have used to have been a man) and therefore two people who have grown up with male privilege. So that's alright then.

[wonderstuff]

WTAF, I've never heard this before. How on earth can it be right to refer to a gender group in the negative? It's seems so regressive, like we are defined by our lack of penis. We are not a minority group, we should be big and proud and bloody female. I'm sorry but trans men identifying as female should be able to join women's groups, or have a non-gendered meeting, but women should be able to take up space as women and not as non-males.