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What do you make of this? Trump related

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FrameyMcFrame Thu 10-Nov-16 09:23:26

This is the sort of thing being posted on my Facebook at the moment
Another excellent (short) piece on how Trump managed to win:

"Much like Picasso's abstract paintings, Trump's brush strokes made little sense to most people. Yes, she's a political power house, yes she's a stalwart in her convictions. But that also makes her stiff in her beliefs.

The world is ever-changing, how can someone maintain their convictions for 30+ years unless they're crooked and a cheat?
How can they maintain power with the elites unless their entire cesspool of a swamp was also polluted? Lock her up.

Trump took her stoicism and grounded it into a pulp. His first attack on Hillary during the general election was that "If she wasn't playing the woman card she wouldn't even get 5% of the vote."

BOOM, head shot.

How did Hillary respond? "If fighting for women's rights and equal pay is playing the woman card, then deal. Me. IN!" This played perfectly into Trump's hand.

He knew she'd be defiant in being a woman and take that attack personally.

He used her soundbites to wedge a gap between men and women voters. The male vote wasn't 2:1 for Trump because they were misogynists, it was because Hillary's words excluded their existence.

Remember 'The Art of War'? It's all about divide and conquer.

When did Hillary ever talk about men's issues? Never.

While Hillary thought she was being stoic in protecting the woman card, Trump was actually playing the man card."

- Wondering what people's thoughts are. I think it's nonsense.

VestalVirgin Thu 10-Nov-16 12:23:04

Of course it is nonsense. Everyone talks about men's issues all the time. Hillary Clinton, too.

Trump was NOT playing the "man card", because there is no such thing. Men are seen as human, not as men. Men are the default in patriarchy.

Were men an oppressed group, as women are then Trump would have had no chance at all.

It is only because he is a man in patriarchy that he could be such an utterly ridiculous idiot and asshole and still win.

Pizanfan Thu 10-Nov-16 12:26:45

I'm not sure what FB friends you have, but 99% of mine are so totally outraged Trump won, and it's all fake.

If you ive your life on social media you have to accept other peoples opinions are as valid as your own, disagree with them great, argue with them even, but accept what they say is valid, and understand that online discussions are extreme by nature.

Everyone on these boards will disagree with my views on the election, and so they should. We will argue, hopefully rationally without me being called sexist, racist etc, but whatever their views I will defend their right to have them.

FrameyMcFrame Thu 10-Nov-16 13:05:18

It's my cousin who posted it.

Unfortunately it would be seen as bad form to unfriend him.. Otherwise I would. I don't really spend my life on social media but I s read it and get upset by it!

thatstoast Thu 10-Nov-16 13:16:57

My translation of it:

Men didn't vote for trump because they were misogynists... They voted for him because they agree with all the misogynistic things he said (and racist, xenophobic, etc, of course). But that's different from being a misogynist so you can't accuse them of that.

Honestly, I don't know how white western men don't die of embarassment when they play the "but what about men?" card.

Pizanfan Thu 10-Nov-16 13:30:29

My translation of it:

Thats exactly your problem, your translation isn't the same as everyone elses, and not necesarily the right translation! Maybe a bit of self awareness would help, try reading a few American women who support Trumps views, they might help you understand why.

scallopsrgreat Thu 10-Nov-16 13:35:42

Maybe a bit of self awareness would help... How rude!

SpeakNoWords Thu 10-Nov-16 13:36:34

And somewhat patronising!

thatstoast Thu 10-Nov-16 13:42:01

Good to see you've overcome the nervousness you had over posting here in only two days.

I agree with you, self awareness is a great quality. Something to aim for.

IAmAmy Thu 10-Nov-16 18:48:18

It's almost too easy to pick at that nonsense but if male voters get so upset about a woman talking about supposed "women's issues" because they're so used to being the centre of everything then that says a lot about them. Talking about women's issues for a change is "denying men's existence", how risible.

YonicProbe Thu 10-Nov-16 19:31:51


You can unfollow him without unfriending him...

FrameyMcFrame Fri 11-Nov-16 08:55:04

Yes, that's a good idea.

I commented on the article and he immediately deleted my comment. He can't stand being contradicted, typical idiot.

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