Fatphobia- the unspoken feminist issue(15 Posts)
Why do people feel so entitled to harass fat people? I have extremely rude neighbours and as I live in a semi-detached house, I can hear them through the wall we share and whenever I'm out in the garden. They're constantly calling me a 'fat pig' and a 'fat cow' or a 'fat piece of s***'. They've even started shouting whenever my baby makes any noise. They do it even more when I'm in the kitchen, as if me being in the kitchen is not at all allowed despite whatever I'm doing, even if it's preparing healthy fresh meals or unloading the washing machine. But I shouldn't even be justifying walking into the kitchen in my own home. This experience is a microcosm of the greater problem in society of fat-shaming. People use the excuse of the obesity epidemic and its impact on the NHS, but bullying and berating people because of their weight isn't going to solve the problem. They've actually done studies and positive reinforcement and body positivity are more effective at helping people reach a healthy weight. If people were really concerned with the obesity epidemic, they would have a go at all the food corporations who fund the MPs and get away with promoting unhealthy food. There's also a difference in how fat women or girls get treated from fat men. Not too long ago, there was someone from an organisation callled 'Overweight Haters' going round the Tube in London giving out leaflets to people that said they were fat and ugly humans. How is that going to help anyone? This sort of stuff can cause people to become depressed and even kill themselves. There have been incidents of women who are overweight being sexually assaulted and afraid to speak out about their assault because the person assaulting them has said none will believe them because of their size. Not to mention the numerous fat-hating sites online devoted to attacking and humiliating people because of their weight. It's like you're not allowed to exist or be considered a human being because your body shape doesn't conform to the prescribed patriarchal standard.
I don't think your neighbours have fat phobia. I think they have massive cunt-itis.
I think I may suffer from a mild dose of cunt-o-philia.
Though, strangely, I've never really expressed it quite like that
Booklooker: So you endorse bullying people?
Perhaps you want to rediscover your love of Mongolian throat singing records at loud volume every time you hear them use such language.
Op that sounds fucking awful. If it were me I would start slagging them off in earshot back. But I'm immature
And you're right, your points are valid. Instead of making overweight people feel bad/guilty/shamed, we should be trying to help X
I find it frustrating that people feel they have the right to comment about how others look. At all. There's no need. But then we have a society that has created a pecking order based purely on looks. Who gets to decide?
You could use the old riposte "yes but I can lose weight if I choose - you'll always be ignorant."
I think if you were skinny as a rake your neighbours would still be shouting obscenities, tbh. I would be considering how you can deal with that - move? Report abuse and harassment?
Your concerns about fat shaming are well documented. I read an interesting blog post this morning on 'fit is a feminist issue' which problematised Tim Gunn's attack on the fashion industry. Even the size acceptance allies can't quite get it right.
It's hardly an undocumented issue, tbh.
This is an interesting article if you want to read more about it.
Your neighbours are guilty of antisocial behaviour. If the house is in Scotland and they rent it rather than own it their behaviour should be reported to their landlord , who has a statutory duty to control antisocial behaviour (failure to do can and does involve sanctions) and the local authority. I understand there is equivalent English legislation.
This isn't about "fat shaming" - they are antisocial scum, if it weren't this , it would be something else.
Tbh your neighbours sound like the sort who would be calling you a "skinny bitch" if you were a size 8. I'm sure them being so awful has nothing to do with your actual size.
On the broader issue I do think we're all far to single minded about health and weight. I'm a size 12. Fit and healthy. But I have an overweight bmi.
I know it's not "ideal" but given I run regularly, have a resting heart rate of 60 and bp of 120/50 I think I'm ok and more fortunate than most.
It's interesting that rude people think it's OK to be ostensibly rude to fat people but not to other potentially unhealthy groups of people. For example, people are sometimes loudly disapproving in the presence of smokers but not in a rude way. They may tut or cough but they don't name call or sneer. The same with those who consume too much alcohol. Celebrities who die of issues related to being fat, such as Elvis Presley, are derided, mockedand looked down on whereas those who have died as a result of alcoholism, such as Amy Winehouse, are glorified.
The main reason for this must be society's obsession with looks and appearances. Attractive people are often more valued than those who have intelligence or who are talented in some way. The emphasis on looks is exacerbated for women so fat women are an easy target. Also, in any power hierarchy, those less powerful (in this case, those who are not visually attractive) compete to make themselves feel better by taking advantage of those lower down the scale. So, often, the rudest fat-shamers are quite ugly people.
YY Chips. I used to be ten stone heavier. Ive gone from a size 28 down to a 14. I heard comments in the street and abuse about my weight loads of times back then. I also used to smoke but never got one insult about that.
After the weight loss i had loads of ppl telling me how much better i looked. They are obvs trying to be nice but the inferrence is that i looked like crap before.
There is nothing like losing weight to make you realise how you were/are judged as soon as you walk out of your front door.
And the NHS and the press bang on about obesity all the time. Must make ppl with certain medical conditions feel like shit.
A friends BIL has refused to take steroids as part of his cancer treatment.
God forbid IF i ever become ill i wont be taking steroids either. After all the hard work ive put in and all the moaning i endured about my weight. No chance.
They cant have it both ways.
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