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New statistics on DV show that it overwhelmingly affects women

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ageingrunner Mon 10-Oct-16 12:10:52

Just read this and it's very disturbing really. The figures of DV affecting 1 in 4 women and 1 in 6 men are apparently way out.

ageingrunner Mon 10-Oct-16 12:17:16

ErrolTheDragon Mon 10-Oct-16 12:19:22

That link didn't work for me - it's not a clicky link but I c&p'd into my browser and got page not found, had a look under but couldn't see it there either.


ErrolTheDragon Mon 10-Oct-16 12:20:15

oh, xpost, that clicky link does work, thanks.

ageingrunner Mon 10-Oct-16 12:20:27

Sorry the clicks link should be there now

ageingrunner Mon 10-Oct-16 12:20:42

X post again grin

Dozer Mon 10-Oct-16 12:24:15

What is the source of the statistics referred to?

IminaPickle Mon 10-Oct-16 12:29:53

The article explains Dozer
In short statistics are capped when it's one perpetrator so a man systematically abusing his wife over years is statistically the same as an pub chucking out time brawl.

ErrolTheDragon Mon 10-Oct-16 12:31:50

My reading of that is, it's not so much that the '1 in 4 women, 1 in 6 men are affected' is inaccurate, but that this much-touted headline figure hides that the violence against those women is likely to be more severe and more frequently repeated .

Which isn't exactly surprising but clearly the ONS needs to
sort out its metrics, and local authorities need to take heed.

IminaPickle Mon 10-Oct-16 12:36:24

The sex if the perpetrator needs to be collated too. When men are victims of DV is is usually male partners. sad

ErrolTheDragon Mon 10-Oct-16 12:37:45

The cap is on 5 incidents per victim. So it doesn't account for systematic long-term abusive situations properly, and these affect women more than men.

ErrolTheDragon Mon 10-Oct-16 12:43:08

>The sex if the perpetrator needs to be collated too.

yy - and it really does need to be sex not 'gender'.

The excess of violence against women may be partly due to gender roles, but while the excess of violence committed by men may be partly down to gender roles, surely also biology (testosterone, size and strength) are a massive component.

IminaPickle Mon 10-Oct-16 12:45:23

Don't get me started on gender v sex Errol hmm
I'm waiting for a steep peak in women offending violent men identify as women. It's already happening. angry

IminaPickle Mon 10-Oct-16 13:30:21

I'm anticipating a steep rise in 'women offending' as violent men identify as women. It's already happening. angry

ToadsJustFellFromTheSky Mon 10-Oct-16 22:30:41

I have always been sceptical of the 40% figure so tbh this doesn't surprise me.

wonderstuff Mon 10-Oct-16 22:48:33

Important work, let's hope it translates into policy

vesuvia Mon 10-Oct-16 23:37:08

The article linked in the OP was published 16 months ago and, unfortunately, I think that its "domestic violence is gendered" message doesn't yet appear to have persuaded enough senior politicians to do much more about fixing the problem of violence against women.

I hope the ONS have improved their domestic abuse and violence data gathering and analysis methods to fix the shortcomings identified by Professor Sylvia Walby that are mentioned in the article.

I think the first set of statistics following the introduction of the law against coercion and control could be due to be published about now. I wonder what impact this law change may have on the statistics.

LumpySpacedPrincess Tue 11-Oct-16 07:39:56

The guardian article that quoted the 40% has so much to answer for, I see it quoted everywhere and it simple isn't true.

IminaPickle Tue 11-Oct-16 08:15:55

As was the random village in Cornwall where there were more male victims than female. Interesting to see people falling over themselves to deny women access to support. angry

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