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New statistics on DV show that it overwhelmingly affects women

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ageingrunner · 10/10/2016 12:10

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11666990/Domestic-abuse-and-violence-is-not-gender-neutral.-Wake-up-Britain.html

Just read this and it's very disturbing really. The figures of DV affecting 1 in 4 women and 1 in 6 men are apparently way out.

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ageingrunner · 10/10/2016 12:17
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ErrolTheDragon · 10/10/2016 12:19

That link didn't work for me - it's not a clicky link but I c&p'd into my browser and got page not found, had a look underwww.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life but couldn't see it there either.

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ErrolTheDragon · 10/10/2016 12:20

oh, xpost, that clicky link does work, thanks.

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ageingrunner · 10/10/2016 12:20

Sorry the clicks link should be there now

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ageingrunner · 10/10/2016 12:20

X post again Grin

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Dozer · 10/10/2016 12:24

What is the source of the statistics referred to?

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IminaPickle · 10/10/2016 12:29

The article explains Dozer
In short statistics are capped when it's one perpetrator so a man systematically abusing his wife over years is statistically the same as an pub chucking out time brawl.

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ErrolTheDragon · 10/10/2016 12:31

My reading of that is, it's not so much that the '1 in 4 women, 1 in 6 men are affected' is inaccurate, but that this much-touted headline figure hides that the violence against those women is likely to be more severe and more frequently repeated .

Which isn't exactly surprising but clearly the ONS needs to
sort out its metrics, and local authorities need to take heed.

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IminaPickle · 10/10/2016 12:36

The sex if the perpetrator needs to be collated too. When men are victims of DV is is usually male partners. Sad

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ErrolTheDragon · 10/10/2016 12:37

The cap is on 5 incidents per victim. So it doesn't account for systematic long-term abusive situations properly, and these affect women more than men.

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ErrolTheDragon · 10/10/2016 12:43

The sex if the perpetrator needs to be collated too.

yy - and it really does need to be sex not 'gender'.

The excess of violence against women may be partly due to gender roles, but while the excess of violence committed by men may be partly down to gender roles, surely also biology (testosterone, size and strength) are a massive component.

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IminaPickle · 10/10/2016 12:45

Don't get me started on gender v sex Errol Hmm
I'm waiting for a steep peak in women offending violent men identify as women. It's already happening. Angry

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IminaPickle · 10/10/2016 13:30

Sheesh
I'm anticipating a steep rise in 'women offending' as violent men identify as women. It's already happening. Angry

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ToadsJustFellFromTheSky · 10/10/2016 22:30

I have always been sceptical of the 40% figure so tbh this doesn't surprise me.

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wonderstuff · 10/10/2016 22:48

Important work, let's hope it translates into policy

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vesuvia · 10/10/2016 23:37

The article linked in the OP was published 16 months ago and, unfortunately, I think that its "domestic violence is gendered" message doesn't yet appear to have persuaded enough senior politicians to do much more about fixing the problem of violence against women.

I hope the ONS have improved their domestic abuse and violence data gathering and analysis methods to fix the shortcomings identified by Professor Sylvia Walby that are mentioned in the article.

I think the first set of statistics following the introduction of the law against coercion and control could be due to be published about now. I wonder what impact this law change may have on the statistics.

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LumpySpacedPrincess · 11/10/2016 07:39

The guardian article that quoted the 40% has so much to answer for, I see it quoted everywhere and it simple isn't true.

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IminaPickle · 11/10/2016 08:15

As was the random village in Cornwall where there were more male victims than female. Interesting to see people falling over themselves to deny women access to support. Angry

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