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Pakistani feminist drugged and strangled by her brother for bringing dishonour on her family

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Felascloak Mon 25-Jul-16 10:28:56

This has shocked me. I am so glad I'm able to be openly feminist without being murdered because of it. RIP Qandeel flowers

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_578fba00e4b0f180da6414de

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-36858317

Felascloak Mon 25-Jul-16 10:29:24

Stoopid links

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-36858317

YorkieDorkie Mon 25-Jul-16 10:43:14

Shot on sight says dad. I agree. What a piece of filth sad.

FreshwaterSelkie Mon 25-Jul-16 15:58:36

Awful.

I hate the phrase "honour" killings. Hate it. There is no honour there. Just state- and religion- sanctioned violence against women and girls. I really think we're going backwards on this, it manages to maintain through generations and the Pakistani government doesn't seem to want to do anything about it.

Felascloak Mon 25-Jul-16 16:10:10

Yes I agree about honour killings. Felt very sad for the parents that their son appears to have taken it upon himself to kill her. And I agree about the culture. Horrible sad

scallopsrgreat Mon 25-Jul-16 16:10:14

Yes, agree Freshwater.

Horrific.

Theydontknowweknowtheyknow Thu 04-Aug-16 09:14:39

Awful. Absolutely awful.

Theydontknowweknowtheyknow Thu 04-Aug-16 09:39:58

This is quite an interesting article on her "brand" of feminism.

www.vogue.com/13462861/qandeel-baloch-crisis-of-feminism-in-pakistan/

I've never been a fan of the "empowerment through taking your clothes off" type of feminism, perhaps because we live in a culture which is saturated with images of women being objectified and I don't see it as empowering but rather as the same old crap.

And had Qandeel put those kind of naked selfies out here in the West I would have thought her another annoying Kim Kardashian.

But I can see, looking at the culture in which she lived and the oppressive ways in which women are required to cover up, hide their sexuality and bear the moral responsibility for male sexual desire, how she could view taking her clothes off and flaunting her body as challenging norms and as a form of liberation / feminism.

It's a shame that things always flip between "cover-up your sexuality" to "flaunt it!" but one is often a reaction to the other it seems.

None of which of course takes away from her horrific murder.

Felascloak Thu 04-Aug-16 09:50:54

It is interesting. Disappointing that she has to have negative parallels drawn with American sleb culture just days after being brutally murdered.
Sometimes I despair at what society thinks is the "newsworthy" aspects of this kid of thing.

OneFlewOverTheDodosNest Thu 04-Aug-16 10:18:11

How horrible, that poor girl and her poor parents.

What I find most insidious about these honour killings is that so many of them happen to girls who are 100% supported by their parents - in families that are actually really liberal by Pakistani standards, but all it takes is one twisted bastard murderer linked to the family to cut it short.

They say that the best way for men to become liberal is to have a daughter but how does that work when estranged brothers and uncles seem to think they can take the law into their own hands? It's the ultimate exercise in preventing improvement from generation to generation - by allowing all the twisted extended family to think they somehow have the right to do this.

I won't hold my breath waiting for the Pakistani government to do something.

0dfod Mon 08-Aug-16 15:06:41

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