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PassiveAgressiveQueen Tue 21-Jun-16 21:47:30

Something really weird on reddit, ok i wandered into 2xchromosomes where a woman was asking about good precschool girls telly, someone said "my sister watched princess stuff and is fine"
I replied i thought quite uncontroversily
"So it is also ok if there are no black or asian people on telly or in films as hey who cares.

People learn an awful lot from the stories they are told and if their whole life they are told girls don't do climbing trees they do dresses and balls and giggling that will limit their life views.

If from birth they see men in white coats doing science,girls wearing pretty dresses what do you think they will grow up thinking."

I have been seriously downvoted, did i say anything wrong or was it just reddit?

TheCountessofFitzdotterel Tue 21-Jun-16 22:19:23

Do you think they missed your irony and thought you were seriously saying no black or Asian people on TV is fine?

AnchorDownDeepBreath Tue 21-Jun-16 22:23:39

I'd put money on it being the way that you wrote it, instead of what you wrote. Reddit subs are quite diverse in their styles and you're expected to conform to those styles - you can disagree and offer opposing opinions etc, but you need to write in the correct style. In some of the news subs that's verifiable info only, some of the academic subs are very impersonal and formally written, two chromosomes is supposed to be supportive and friendly. Tough love, at times, but not really sarcastic or condescending.

PassiveAgressiveQueen Tue 21-Jun-16 22:39:20

Thanks, a couple of people were questioning why, i was at -11 when i went to copy and paste.

WeMustSurelyBeLearning Wed 22-Jun-16 04:08:07

2xchromosomes is full of MRAs and transactivists. I avoid it.

LassWiTheDelicateAir Wed 22-Jun-16 05:34:58

*"my sister watched princess stuff and is fine"
I replied i thought quite uncontroversily
"So it is also ok if there are no black or asian people on telly or in films as hey who cares.*

The 2 statements don't follow logically. Girls and women are not depicted only as princesses. The first statement is true. Girls' brains don't stop working just because they might wear a Disney Princess dress.

People learn an awful lot from the stories they are told and if their whole life they are told girls don't do climbing trees they do dresses and balls and giggling that will limit their life views

Setting aside why exactly there is such an obsession on MN about climbing trees who actually is telling girls they can't climb trees? I've never heard anyone say this or read it anywhere other than on MN.

If from birth they see men in white coats doing science,girls wearing pretty dresses what do you think they will grow up thinking

Presumably like everyone else who attends a doctor's , dentist's or vet's surgery or hospital they will see women in white coats. I don't watch much television but are you really saying Casualty et al have no women in white coats?

ChocChocPorridge Wed 22-Jun-16 08:26:57

What WeMust says.

Always best to lurk on a sub and see what the feel is - many are not what they say on the tin.

ChocChocPorridge Wed 22-Jun-16 08:31:44

I don't see how representation on TV can't have an effect.

I remember watching a load of kids drawing faces for a wall frieze and my son's school. Mostly white kids, they all reached for the pink crayons. What surprised me, is so did the black/asian kids - because of a combination of peer pressure, and that that is just what they see.

To the teacher's credit, I think she noticed too, because the next time when they did space men, she'd pre-cut out paper ovals for faces in all shades and just randomly handed them out.

It seems a small thing, but if the majority of people you see are a certain way (and if you look in older books, it's all white faces, and the doctors are all men) it has an effect. It must do.

ChocChocPorridge Wed 22-Jun-16 08:54:19

Hell - I just re-read my post, and there I go - Space men. Gendered language is everywhere, I can't imagine how that can't affect people's thinking.

Astronaut. That's what I should have said

PassiveAgressiveQueen Wed 22-Jun-16 23:01:57

Have you seen the school video where they discuss three jobs, surgeon, fighter piloet and something else maybe fire fighter. all the kids draw men.

Then 3 women walk in who do the jobs.

See fireman is just snappier and easier to say than fire fighter.

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