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Alice Dreger censored by Everyday Feminism..,

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PinkyOfPie Wed 01-Jun-16 21:57:09

...for sticking up for a gender critical author who had a smear campaign waged against him by trans activists, which included posting pictures of his young daughter online calling her "cock starved".

article here

I can't believe this is happening to our world, and to feminism. I feel like it's really losing its way sad

PalmerViolet Wed 01-Jun-16 22:08:54

Alice Dreger also supports the idea that paedophilia is just another sexuality, like homosexuality and is therefore not wrong. So yeah, Alice Dreger can probably go away.

PinkyOfPie Wed 01-Jun-16 22:10:56

Aaaah I did not know that Palmer. However that's even more annoying that it was pulled because of the trans thing rather than the paedophile is thing!

PalmerViolet Wed 01-Jun-16 22:13:42

Everyday feminism is about as feminist as a voice for manbabies, so I can't say I'm surprised.

SuburbanRhonda Wed 01-Jun-16 22:25:44

Do you have a link for that, palmer? I thought it was more about how paedophilia is defined by the scientific community but I could have misunderstood that.

PalmerViolet Wed 01-Jun-16 22:32:03

Only my old twitter feed where that's what she told me and others. I deactivated it and I believe she deleted a bunch of tweets about it.

You'll have to take mine and a bunch of other people's word for it I'm afraid. Or not.

MyCrispBag Thu 02-Jun-16 07:39:55

I haven't read it because my brain is too sleepy to make sense of it yet.

0phelia Thu 02-Jun-16 13:35:51

She believes pedophilia is a sexual orientation in a scientific sense of the word (innate and not chosen sexual attraction), but not that this makes it "OK". She believes more treatment needs to be available to these men to prevent them acting out their pedophilia and protect children.

She agrees that labelling it as a "sexual orientation" would be problematic because it lumps it together with homosexuality, and certain laws are in place to protect people from discrimination based on their sexual orientation, but these laws have not been written with pedophilia in mind.

No treatment has so far proven to cure the pedophilia itself, only working to opress the sex drive, so therefore the condition could be thought to be an "orientation".

No idea what she wrote on twitter, but I wouldn't write her off as a total wacko.

But yeah, funny how she is mostly ignored for these controversial writings, but when it comes to backing a gender-critical POV she's attacked.

ArcheryAnnie Thu 02-Jun-16 17:04:17

Everyday Feminism is not a feminist site at all. It exists to peddle quack "self-improvement" courses, and it's modus operandi seems to be to convince women about how they are inherently wrong wrong wrong about everything, inherently flawed, and so then they can sell them a course to fix them. Which is just about as patriarchal as it is possible to be.

MaximumHoldMousse Wed 08-Jun-16 07:25:31

I loathe Everyday Feminism! Really cannot stand how so many (all?) of the articles are lists of how women are Doing Things Wrong or a list of What Women Should Be Doing In Their Feminism. It's just so negative and bossy! I would be curious as to who owns it, there was an article recently about who owns xojane, Jezebel, Bustle etc. And also the ads for the 'self love course' get on my nerves, promoting their courses whilst simultaneously criticising with their Listicles seems so cult-like. Maybe am reading too much into it tho!

TheNewStatesman Wed 08-Jun-16 12:40:59

EF is such an interesting business model. The people who run it spend half their time telling its readers why they are shitty evil people, and the other half promoting its expensive "How To Love Yourself" therapy courses. You've got to hand it to them, it's genius.

I'm thinking of starting up a website that sells chocolate biscuits and slimming programs in equal measures.

VestalVirgin Wed 08-Jun-16 13:48:21

EF is such an interesting business model. The people who run it spend half their time telling its readers why they are shitty evil people, and the other half promoting its expensive "How To Love Yourself" therapy courses. You've got to hand it to them, it's genius.

Isn't that the modus operandi of many so called "women's magazines"? On one page there's body positivity and cake recipes, and on the next, there's an advertisement for diet pills and pictures of unhealthily thin models.

The only new thing is the fact that they call it "feminism", which is really daring, but obviously pays off.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

VestalVirgin Wed 08-Jun-16 18:15:08

Gender pronouns are transphobic? Uh. Without gendered pronouns, how would the trans force others to play along with their ideas? Transitioning from gender-neutral pronoun "xie" to gender-neutral pronoun "xie" doesn't sound so exciting.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

OhtoblazeswithElvira Wed 08-Jun-16 18:36:47

Thank you for that needascarf. I am a linguist and a feminist and feel like banging my head against my desk. What tripe.

ThatStewie Wed 08-Jun-16 18:41:29

Much of that article is actually rather sensible - even by non EF stupid standards. How the author has managed to shove such a stupid statement in what should have been a reasonable discussion of colonialism, racism and decolonising cultural practises.

How is xie pronounced?

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans Tue 14-Jun-16 18:36:35

Fantastic EF spoof here:

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