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This is kind of old news but can I get angry about it please?

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PinkyOfPie Mon 09-May-16 20:57:55

Been meaning to post this for a while.

A teacher in my local area was, at the end of last year, convicted of indecent exposure. He had exposed himself twice in a mixed sex changing room to a woman and her children. At one time he'd had an erection. His defences is that he'd forgotten to lock the cubicle door hmm

Following his conviction a petition was set up on change.org for a retrial, and 1300 fuckwits local people signed it.

The comments on the petition state that he doesn't derserve a conviction because -
- he has a good looking wife
- he was a good teacher
- he's been through hell over the last 8 months
- the victim should have looked away if she didn't like what she saw

This includes from pupils, parents of pupils and colleagues.

To put into perspective the certainty of his guilt, he had many inconsistencies in his story and the jury took just 35 minutes to convict him.

Luckily Cumbria Police were fantastic and issued this
Commending the bravery of the victim and condemning those who've signed the petition.

I find it terrifying that there's 1,300 apologist morons in my town, that think a petition can buy a retrial. The Facebook comments at the time were horrendous, calling to "name and shame" the victim.

This is a town I have to raise my DD in. I still feel disgusted months later. How do I even begin to steer her away from that school of thought, when people she would probably look up to are excusing his crime because he's good at his job?

realwoodlogs Mon 09-May-16 21:20:32

I'm from here too. The response of the petition, from students parents and other people, as well as comments was ridiculous. I also heard people saying how he was good looking so she should have enjoyed it! WTAF!

Though listening to how many young people talk here (my eldest is at one of the secondary schools), there is a sickening level of misogyny and attitudes like this. I was shocked how many people were supporting the sick fucker. If I'd been his wife, he'd have been out on his arse so fast.

Glad he was banned from teaching. Can't believe some people wanted him back in a classroom!

SocialDisaster Mon 09-May-16 21:30:35

So he repeatidly flashed children and a woman. His poor baby and wife. I would thank the people that placed their names on the petition so you can avoid them like the plague.

PinkyOfPie Mon 09-May-16 21:32:22

social a few of my FB friends shared the petition at the time. They are no longer my FB friends.

LassWiTheDelicateAir Mon 09-May-16 22:12:50

The person who started the petition states he "has taught me everything I know".

Clearly his subject can't have been English given the appalling grammar and sentence construction.

EnthusiasmDisturbed Mon 09-May-16 22:48:02

I am not surprised

We see it everywhere even on here a site that is mainly used by women that women are so often undermined and men excused

the victim should have looked away ffs hmm it's saddens me that victim blaming is so ingrained for some

WeDoNotSow Tue 10-May-16 01:51:15

God that petition is awful.
Still, nothing beats a good bit of victim blaming, eh?
I'm assuming that 'beyond reasonable doubt' wasn't something that he taught the petition starter, eh?

WomanWithAltitude Tue 10-May-16 07:43:00

Bloody hell. It makes you despair sometimes, doesn't it? How do these people not listen to themselves and realise how shit the victim blaming is?

VestalVirgin Tue 10-May-16 07:57:39

The person who started the petition states he "has taught me everything I know".

... which isn't much, it seems. But apparently, disgusting victim blaming is some of it.

Clearly his subject can't have been English given the appalling grammar and sentence construction.

Well, since he taught the petition starter only "everything I know" and not "everything he knows", it could have been - in that case, everything the petition starter knows about English grammar is not that much. wink

PinkyOfPie Tue 10-May-16 09:04:09

Just read more comments, the mother of someone who had "been through something similar" signed he petition. After a quick goggle it seems her son attacked 3 women on a night out, including head butting one, and pleaded guilty.

What is wrong with people? Are parents so blinded by love that they think this is ok (the perverts mother signed the petition too). Unfortunately he doesn't have to be on the sex offenders register!

realwoodlogs Tue 10-May-16 09:58:04

He was an english teacher! He taught my friend's son. The school hasn't the best rep though.

SocialDisaster Tue 10-May-16 10:10:55

My Mother is the same. It took for my daughters to refuse to have anything to do with her son too for her to accept maybe he is toxic. She keep pretending she can't say misogynistic and each time claims to not understand what it means. She was upto last year working as the nurse in charge of a unit.

Each time she says oh yes she read things on his Facebook page did she. It's not my fault she repeats. Then she pretends to have dementia hmm only about specific things, sadly no dementia when it comes to her favourite subject, gossip, about people I met maybe once twenty years ago I am not intetested in.

TealLove Tue 10-May-16 10:12:29

That petition makes me want to throw up.

WeDoNotSow Tue 10-May-16 13:28:15

Also the 'let's compare the victim to his wife', as that's such an accurate way to determine guilt of a sex offender..
The 'door accidentally swung open' is obviously the 'official story' been put out around there....

SocialDisaster Tue 10-May-16 13:32:33

My Mother was the same talking about her son and his ex. She was every name under the sun apparently. hmm I reminded her what an arse her son is and was the last time I shared a room with him. Silence. Then further rants about the ex. hmm I avoid a great deal.

Italiangreyhound Sun 15-May-16 00:16:59

How fucking sad. I despair of some people and especially some women who seem to have no understanding or empathy at all!

People's look, their partners looks, how good at their job, OF COURSE none of that matters, did they do the crime..... that's the only thing anyone should be concerned with... plus will they get an suitable input in prison to stop them doing it again!

Italiangreyhound Sun 15-May-16 00:19:18

I don't know why I expect more of women, I just do. And usually women do have more empathy than men, and more understanding, but in some cases, like this one, people generally seem to be very easy to confuse!

Oh, and lying, as well. Judges are stymied by a level of formality in their language, but it's always fun to hear one call somebody a liar.

This sort of nan happens again and again on the Relationships freds. "Everybody would think I'm mad to leave him - he's so good-looking and charming...". Well, we're seeing the macro here, aren't we, and its sickening.

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