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A good example of a police 'stay safe' poster

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CaptainWentworth · 20/02/2016 08:59

I think this one is simple, clear, yet manages to avoid targeting women specifically. I think Northumbria Police have a pretty good attitude to women, possibly due to the influence of Vera Baird as the PCC.

A good example of a police 'stay safe' poster
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TheresALight · 20/02/2016 09:05

It's pink and the drink is a cocktail. Doesn't scream neutral to me

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CaptainWentworth · 20/02/2016 10:31

Ok, I see your point. There have been other posters in the past with the same text that were less pink. On the other hand, I like that it's giving practical advice rather than saying a generic 'be careful' like that one that was poster in AIBU earlier in the week. And the advice is equally applicable to either sex.

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WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid · 20/02/2016 12:41

I like that poster.

Yes there's a lot of pink but there's also blue, purple and yellow. It doesn't scream this message is just for the girls to me - although I do agree it's not entirely neutral.

Maybe there's another poster in another station where the drink is a pint glass.

Advice is very practical too.

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MrsJayy · 20/02/2016 12:45

Its a bit out with the girlies but the advice is sound

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TychosNose · 20/02/2016 12:59

Do you not think that it is still putting responsibility in the hands of victims?

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MrsJayy · 20/02/2016 13:06

Tbf its not imo about victims its just telling people to make sure you have these things handy to get home safely

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MyCrispBag · 20/02/2016 13:17

What I really don't understand about these campaigns is I am pretty sure, statistically, that men are in at least the same amount of danger as women (I know there are problems with recording).

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Homeriliad · 20/02/2016 13:19

The poster is horribly misogynistic. The pink and cocktail glass is reinforcing gender stereotypes and is victim blaming. Women should be able to go out without keys, money or phones without having to worry about consequences due to male behaviour.

This is not a good example of a poster, it's yet more evidence of the patriachy determined to destroy women at all costs.

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TychosNose · 20/02/2016 13:26

A better poster campaign might be one saying

"do not attack anyone physically or sexually. If you can't control yourself on a night out then just go home. If you do attack anyone you will be caught and prosecuted and will receive the maximum sentence"

And of course a actually prosecute perpetrators.

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Pedestriana · 20/02/2016 13:26

Is it not sexist to assume that only women like pink and cocktails and therefore assume that the poster is directed at them?
It could be a slightly more 'neutral' colour - more purple perhaps, and a glass of wine could be a better image but overall it's not as bad as some I have seen.

To some extent it could fall into the 'victim blaming' category, but surely it is sensible to know where you're going, who you're with, and how to get home? Regardless of age or gender.

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whatdoIget · 20/02/2016 13:32

Posters aimed at men are often pink. Look at the gilette and Lynx adverts you see around. Oh no, sorry, hang on a minute. They aren't pink at all are they? It's clearly aimed at women.

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SpuriouserAndSpuriouser · 20/02/2016 13:36

Maybe they just used pink because it's bright and catches the eye. I don't think it is gendered or victim blaming. It's solid advice that everyone can use. It's not saying that if you don't do these things you will get raped/mugged/whatever. It's just encouraging people to take responsibility for themselves and their friends.

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MargotLovedTom · 20/02/2016 13:37

Homeriliad how is it victim blaming to say 'make sure you have enough money to get home'? I'd say a woman is just as likely to get hypothermia staggering home pissed in the freezing cold NE winter, or get knocked over or lost, as they are to get raped or assaulted. Reminding people to take sensible precautions to cover all eventualities is hardly victim blaming.

Also, I live in the NE. Loads of the bars are full of young women on the cocktails; the poster is visually eye-catching and will appeal to the demographic at which it is aimed.

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WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid · 20/02/2016 13:44

Women should be able to go out without keys, money or phones without having to worry about consequences

Anyone setting out for a night out without keys, money or a phone is likely to run into problems.

I agree with spurious it's about taking respinsibility for yourself when on a night out.
I think the suggestion to make the drink a wine glass so it's more gender neutral is a good one.

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MrsJayy · 20/02/2016 13:45

Why would anybody go on a night out without money or their keys to get in Homeriliad swanning about in the pub man or woman without housekeys and money enough to get home is iresponsible (sp)

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Waypasttethersend · 20/02/2016 13:47

Stash some cash in case you lose your purse or WALLET

From the poster aimed at both sexes.

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RubyChewsDay · 20/02/2016 13:48

I know its pink, but is it supposed to be a sunset?

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TychosNose · 20/02/2016 13:48

Margot do you actually know it to be the case that a woman is more likely to catch hypothermia on a night out than to be assaulted? I don't have any data but it would surprise me if that were true.

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MargotLovedTom · 20/02/2016 13:50

Certainly is.

Is it okay to wake up your DP/flatmate/parents Wink at 3am because you didn't bother taking your keys out and it's taken you an hour to walk home as you had no money left for a taxi? Adults are responsible for their own welfare. Nothing victim blaming about that.

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MargotLovedTom · 20/02/2016 13:53

Here we go with the data requests! No of course I don't Tchycos, which is why I said 'I'd say'. Just going off my experience of living in the NE, that's all.

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TychosNose · 20/02/2016 13:55

Then the poster should say "wear a fucking coat"

To me the poster is saying exactly what society says "young women, you need to look after each other because we are not doing enough to stop you from being attacked"

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TychosNose · 20/02/2016 14:01

Sorry Margot I wasn't requesting data, I don't have any either.im just surprised as my personal experience has been that I'm much more likely to be assaulted than to catch hypothermia. didnt mean to annoy you.

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MargotLovedTom · 20/02/2016 14:09

Hypothermia was hyperbole. Someone has to walk home at 2am for an hour in a cocktail dress and high heels, no coat, in sub zero temperatures. I don't know whether they're more likely to be raped or simply turn up at home fucking blue. Nobody is going to do an experiment to find out either. Neither outcome is desirable though.

Yes, men need to not rape. That is beyond obvious. But until rapists start taking on board "don't rape!" then I will tell my daughters, when they begin to go out drinking, that they need to make sure they can get home safely.

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MargotLovedTom · 20/02/2016 14:10

Sorry I'm snappy and I've just cross posted with you. Also sorry to hear you've been assaulted.

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