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"Rape culture" coercion and art

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slugseatlettuce Sun 20-Dec-15 19:25:24

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QueenStromba Mon 21-Dec-15 18:13:59

I make that at least two rapes and at least one attempted rape.

slugseatlettuce Mon 21-Dec-15 18:53:12

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slugseatlettuce Mon 21-Dec-15 18:54:12

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SpecialistSnowflake Mon 21-Dec-15 19:58:48

It was shocking to read all that, and then have it end with 'I've never been raped.' ????

Elendon Tue 22-Dec-15 00:57:43

It's quite obvious she has been raped, and more than once. Reading it was quite triggering actually. I'm personally disturbed by her artwork, that's not to say it was bad, good artwork should provoke a reaction.

Room101isWhereIUsedToLive Tue 22-Dec-15 01:35:10

She's been raped, but doesn't know how to face that, is what I am guessing.

toomanyeggs Tue 22-Dec-15 03:49:09

She "hasn't been raped" because she believes rape is a kin to what we know as stranger rape.

Like many in society, she still thinks that if it doesn't involve a stranger, an alley way and a weapon, it wasn't rape.

And she probably thinks this way because to think what she lived through as rape is just too unbearable

Room101isWhereIUsedToLive Tue 22-Dec-15 03:54:03

So how do we go about dispelling this belief that rape involves a stranger in an alley way?
I know this isn't the case, raped by my first boyfriend and by several men since.

cailindana Tue 22-Dec-15 20:43:38

I think we keep talking about it Room. Also there should be proper sex education that includes plenty of very clear information about what consent is and about the fact that any sort of coercion is unacceptable.

PassiveAgressiveQueen Tue 22-Dec-15 23:59:56

Yes I had "the incident" from the age of 18 to 30+ when it was renamed 'the rape'

ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight Wed 23-Dec-15 04:31:06

How sad that she has described more than one incident of rape then says 'I've never been raped'
I found that line quite viscerally shocking actually in its cognitive dissonance

VestalVirgin Wed 23-Dec-15 12:39:58

Stories like hers make me so glad I'm more or less celibate. I hope that all those young girls of whom I know that they partake in "hook-up culture" have never been raped, but it's not likely, is it? hmm

If she can better cope with the rapes if she calls them "coercion", that's okay, the vital thing is that she sees it's wrong.

The pictures are very good at making the point that the female body is perceived by the general public as being for male's consumption.

Elendon Wed 23-Dec-15 13:25:44

Absolutely spot on Vestal. It's not just consumption of your body though, it's your mind, soul, money too.

And of course yes, slugs and lettuce. But this one was my most triggering image. I had to give up a successful and burgeoning career that I loved in Horticulture to look after our special needs son.

LassWiTheDelicateAir Wed 23-Dec-15 13:34:58

I wonder if she had been sitting on say the Ched Evans jury if she would have found him guilty?

I'm not keen on the title of her piece.


Does she think if she weren't attractive she would meet men who were less jerks?

And thinking that because she wants to have casual sex ( which is entirely fine, I'm making no moral judgements there) means she is "available" is pretty depressing.

VestalVirgin Wed 23-Dec-15 15:30:47

@Lass: What does "available" mean to you, then? Is this an insulting word if attached to a human being? (Honest question, English isn't my mothertongue)

And I think that if she weren't attractive, she would meet as many jerks, but some of them would probably not try to get into her pants. I am socially awkward and never use make up, and I do think that has helped reduce the number of men who want to have sex with me.

Stranger rapists don't care how attractive their victims are, but I do suspect that some date rapists are more picky.
(There are also those who prey on women with low self-esteem, but an unattractive woman who is okay with being unattractive might get away)

LassWiTheDelicateAir Wed 23-Dec-15 18:04:12

"Available" is a commodity. Availability of stock. I :think that is a very odd way to describe oneself in relation to whether or not one wants to have sex.

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