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How a man becomes a woman. Daily Mail article.

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kua Sat 05-Dec-15 23:22:49

Words fail.

ShortcutButton Sun 06-Dec-15 11:46:09

I feel that this is comment worthy. But I don't know what to say

howtorebuild Sun 06-Dec-15 11:47:24

I read the article, I also don't know what to say.

Thefitfatty Sun 06-Dec-15 11:50:56


ShortcutButton Sun 06-Dec-15 12:08:21

Its an incorrectly titled article for starters. Genital mutilation does not make a man into a woman. And it is not a vagina that is created

TheCarpenter Sun 06-Dec-15 15:38:50

Having my first period since giving birth today (on top of breastfeeding with a huge head cold).
They can fuck right off, vagina my arse.

JoanFerguson Sun 06-Dec-15 16:04:09

I've said it before - a vagina isn't just a hole for putting dicks in. The misogyny in thinking it is is staggering.

ToffeePenny Sun 06-Dec-15 17:14:05

I am beginning to see what the radfems mean by the patriarchal obsession with piv - why else would this have ever seemed a good idea to a surgeon?

This makes me sad on two fronts - the first being that someone would mutilate themselves like this just so some man can stick his dick into a hole. There is no muscle there and it must require cleaning and lubrication to keep the skin from getting friction sores with no physical benefit to the owner.
The second that to rationalise this as a vagina there must be a belief that women are passively penetrated, without any active participation from our side, and without any expectation of enjoyment, the same belief that seems to be affecting teenage girls in our increasingly pornified culture.

TheCarpenter Sun 06-Dec-15 17:29:46

The button made from the head of the penis must be a huge disappointment. DH was telling me about his bellend. grin He says it varies in sensitivity from place to place* and that having it 'limited' in that way would mean losing a lot of sensation and feeling. My fanny's a bastard but I do like my clitoris.

*by place to place I mean front of head to back etc, not home in the bedroom compared to Tesco.

OnePlanOnHouzz Sun 06-Dec-15 17:39:36

Ouch !!! confused

howtorebuild Sun 06-Dec-15 19:09:14

Apparently there is a higher than average proportion of psychopaths represented in Surgical Doctors.

OneMoreCasualty Sun 06-Dec-15 19:39:16

Well put, toffee.

slugseatlettuce Sun 06-Dec-15 19:47:18

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

howtorebuild Sun 06-Dec-15 19:57:12 They are running a story with instructions for parents of toddlers too.

ShortcutButton Sun 06-Dec-15 20:03:33

grin carpenter

HermioneWeasley Sun 06-Dec-15 20:03:56

Someone on another thread said something along the lines of "it seems unlikely that the path to good mental health is strewn with discarded healthy body parts"

HermioneWeasley Sun 06-Dec-15 20:10:49

howto why isn't this considered child abuse? Puberty blockers? The kid just likes pink. At a similar age My DD announced that she would have a blue willy when she grew up - I didn't rush her to the GP for diagnosis, I just told her she wouldn't!

The rush for pushing a trans agenda is starting to feel very sinister

HermioneWeasley Sun 06-Dec-15 20:14:48

And the first DM article in the surgery supports the impression many people have that the majority of MTT have genital surgery, whereas in fact 70-80% do not. The majority remain recognisably male bodied, perhaps with boobs and hair extensions.

howtorebuild Sun 06-Dec-15 20:16:48

It sounds like it snowballed to me, one medical professional signposts another. The parents are doing as the experts tell them.

howtorebuild Sun 06-Dec-15 20:20:26

If you scroll down the DM home page there are loads of articles on the matter this evening.

ShortcutButton Sun 06-Dec-15 20:22:51


jipjap Sun 06-Dec-15 20:31:33

That is not a fanny! It's a fucking hole. Who the fuck would want their dick cut off? Do the have a working uterus and ovaries? No, they're not women, they're mentally disturbed, this op does not make them female. It's not LGTB phobic at all, it's just that this is just incredibly fucked up. Without a doubt this is a feminist issue.

HermioneWeasley Sun 06-Dec-15 20:40:24

jipjap - it's not a hole, it's a wound. It has to be treated to stop it healing over.

Elendon Sun 06-Dec-15 20:48:27

Good grief, I can't even begin how you would pee right afterwards, never mind walk straight again.

Plus, the prostate still stays. It's just straight out mutilation. Just like melon breasts.

ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight Sun 06-Dec-15 20:49:06

It's pretty revolting really. And very, very sad. Personally I feel that all unnecessary surgery is pretty sad but this is just so extreme and horrible/horrifying. It's like a horror film.
I read something on a blog about a trans women with a neo vagina who had to spend an evening a week cleaning out the residual gunk and hair that matted up deep in the crevice. And she cut off her penis for that. Too sad.

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