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Spotted hyenas, pseudo penises and matriarchy

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LadyBlaBlah Wed 20-May-15 10:38:15

This might seem a bit random, however I've found it totally fascinating that one of the most successful matriarchal systems is in a group of animals who have developed their bodies to be unrapeable. More here

It sort of begs the question of- can we ever be unrapeable?

And that's a weird question because it verges on victim blaming, because 'men just shouldn't rape', but while they physically can, can it be wiped out?

Also verges on chastity belt scenarios, which is wrong too, but I'm just pondering ways in which women can make rape physically impossible. The hyenas did it.of begs a question,

LadyBlaBlah Wed 20-May-15 10:39:34

Posting on phone and can't delete last random sentence.

almondcakes Wed 20-May-15 10:55:44

No, there is no possible physical alteration that could prevent rape of humans, male or female.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit Wed 20-May-15 11:00:37

Unless we get rid of all the men.

hobNong Wed 20-May-15 12:36:18

Ouch, it's a shame they haven't evolved a less painful way to give birth.

cadno Wed 20-May-15 13:34:48

Another example of the evolutionary advantage of high levels of testosterone.

dominogocatgo Wed 20-May-15 14:47:35

It's a strange evolutionary development to make reproduction more difficult for a species.

cadno Wed 20-May-15 15:18:12

Yes, that is a certainly a downside - but it seems (from the article) not too much of one - as it is outweighed by the success in being able to hunt more successfully.

I should imagine that what must have happened is that at the time of the original mutation - there would have been only a small increase in the androgen levels in the females (in that line of females from the first mutant) - and slowly overtime that line would have out competed the other females and the levels got higher and higher, leading to the physical changes - until now all spotted hyenas alive today share that individual animal as a common ancestor.

BTW I don't use the term mutant in a derogatory manner as per popular fiction these days

EhricLovesTheBhrothers Wed 20-May-15 15:37:35

Female hyenas are bigger and more aggressive than males. Plus their vagina penis things rupture during childbirth. They aren't really at risk of rape by male hyenas I don't think, and I wouldn't want a vagina penis much.

cadno Wed 20-May-15 16:07:51

A real-life animal tale of 'If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle' ?

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