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GodPlayedByJamesMason Mon 13-Oct-14 11:56:04

I'm a frequent lurker here but never really post but just felt I had to after reading this article about a female game developer and the threats she receives just for doing her job, I don't know what response I want really, just someone to talk through with me how horrific this is/how brave she is for refusing to break/what can we do, you know?

TunipTheUnconquerable Mon 13-Oct-14 12:37:45

Horrendous.

I don't know what we can do. This is presumably taking place in America? The sort of threats she's getting sound pretty similar to what Caroline Criado-Perez got, but at least the perpetrator here was imprisoned for it. I don't know what American law is like in cases like this, given what a fetish they make of free speech.

YonicScrewdriver Mon 13-Oct-14 12:49:22

Ugh

BriarRainbowshimmer Mon 13-Oct-14 13:49:14

It used to be bad but this shit is getting really extreme now. I don't know what to say really.

FruitBasedDrinkForALady Tue 14-Oct-14 02:41:39

I was reading about this on HuffPo earlier and was horrified too. I have absolutely no way to understand how anyone can be so hate-filled. It terrifies and saddens me in equal measure that women in supposedly civilized countries doing their normal jobs are seen as utterly inhuman by anonymous lunatics.

Zazzles007 Tue 14-Oct-14 10:12:40

This sort of thing really saddens and angers me, that these misogynists think they can send death and rape threats to women in prominent situations and its somehow a 'joke' or something. I am glad that the authorities are taking this and other such incidents seriously.

As to what can be done, I think the more that we talk about it, and the more that we discuss how unacceptable this behaviour is, and condemn those who take part in it, then the wider the discussion becomes. When you call out crappy behaviour by people, it highlights to them and to many others, what is acceptable and unacceptable in a rational and reasonable society.

Monkeytrousers101 Tue 14-Oct-14 11:46:16

These people are lone nutters and nothing to go with #GamerGate. Gamers are people of all genders ethnicities. And they too report harassers. https://twitter.com/sanc/status/521206513130799105 .

Monkeytrousers101 Tue 14-Oct-14 11:47:56

Here is a good overview of what is happeing techcrunch.com/2014/09/25/gamergate-an-issue-with-2-sides/

BuffyRedRidingHood Tue 14-Oct-14 11:48:41

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Monkeytrousers101 Tue 14-Oct-14 11:56:31

I agree. But there is plenty crappy behaviour on both sides from people who have an interest in misrepresenting and, indeed, lying, leaving the real gamers who are not harassers to fight for themselves. That's what gamer gate is about. The first link I posted showed gamers exposing a harraser as an reporting an anti- gamergate journalist, creating controversy as click bait. The 2nd article I posted is very measured and explains both sides. But it's only useful only if people are interested in actually knowing the complexity of what is going on of course

juneybean Tue 14-Oct-14 11:58:13

Wow I didn't realise this was a thing! I am a female gamer and know many other female gamers.

Monkeytrousers101 Tue 14-Oct-14 12:02:13

These are normal, male, female, straight, gay gamers fighting back against journalistic and gamer corporate corruption. This is the real face of #gamergate not what you read in the games journalism. It's only 3 mins long. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqBdCmDR0M

Bifauxnen Tue 14-Oct-14 12:07:08

jezebel.com/gamergate-trolls-arent-ethics-crusaders-theyre-a-hate-1644984010

Gamergate is an anti-feminist/woman campaign hidden behind an unconvincing facade.

Monkeytrousers101 Tue 14-Oct-14 12:10:03

Yes, all those women in the video. all the female gamer gate supporters are victims of false consciousness. They must be socialised to embrace their weakness and victimhood

Monkeytrousers101 Tue 14-Oct-14 12:12:19

and "feminist" does not = "woman". So anti feminist does not = anti woman.

Egalitarians embrace equality and human rights for all. They just don't believe in building barricades between men and women, but breaking them down. Shocking stuff, I know.

Bifauxnen Tue 14-Oct-14 12:26:20

My favourite quote on gamergate by an editor of cracked after the site had been bombarded - "A few weeks ago our message board and general inbox were bombarded with demands we address something called the "GamerGate Scandal", posts written with the urgency and rage one would associate with, say, discovering that Chipotle burritos are made entirely from the meat of human babies. It's apparently a big deal in some circles, so we followed the links and read the piles of data presented, and had to stop and take a deep breath just to grasp it all. "Gentlemen," we said amid the stunned silence, "do you realize that if what they're saying is true, then this is still the most pointless fucking bullshit anyone has ever forced us to read?"

There may be a minority who are genuine in their concern over ethics but they are being used by those with a hateful agenda.
Another article arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/09/new-chat-logs-show-how-4chan-users-pushed-gamergate-into-the-national-spotlight/

Bifauxnen Tue 14-Oct-14 12:29:22

The misogynists involved see no difference between women and feminists. Any woman doing something they don't like is labelled a feminist and therefore a valid target.
And I see through the 'egalitarian' bullshit.

BriarRainbowshimmer Tue 14-Oct-14 12:29:46

Gamergate is an anti-feminist/woman campaign hidden behind an unconvincing facade.

YY. And I would say, anti-gaming and anti-fun. They are giving gaming a very bad name. I don't feel like going on gaming sites with this shit going on.

PetulaGordino Tue 14-Oct-14 12:35:16

i don't understand why posters on this thread really need to understand gamergate at all. fundamentally a woman is the subject of misogynist threats and that is not acceptable. so i agree with zazzles

PetulaGordino Tue 14-Oct-14 12:36:20

i'm not saying it shouldn't be discussed btw. just that an understanding of the complexities is not required to condemn the attack faced by the woman in that article

YonicScrewdriver Tue 14-Oct-14 12:42:07

Agree, Petula.

slug Tue 14-Oct-14 12:45:33

Ethics my arse It's a case of a man who got miffed that his girlfriend dumped him then made yup lots of stories to discredit her.

It's the same old story of men who can't handle women being visible

BuffyRedRidingHood Tue 14-Oct-14 13:00:36

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

BriarRainbowshimmer Tue 14-Oct-14 13:05:27

"Let's be real for a second. #gamergate is the new name for a group that has been harassing me for 2 years. All the same users are involved."

A recent Tweet from Anita Sarkeesian.

Wow, that techcrunch article was way long and explained nothing. Let's step away from who posted what, and who tweeted whose address...

When you say, 'fighting back against journalistic and gamer corporate corruption, monkeytrousers, what would said corruption look like?

What are we talking here, some sort of financial shenanigans with a big games publisher? Since gaming coverage is tiny in mainstream press, I assume we're talking gaming mags? Or IGN et al? I have missed the start of this, so feel free to take it from the top.

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