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So, not everyone's a feminist

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Vivacia · 18/08/2014 10:37

Plasterer arrived today for the first of four days. I am working from home but everyone else is out.

So far we've had,

"You're not one of these modern women are you?" - don't know, not sure what that means.

"Are you a feminist?" - "Of course I am, aren't you?".

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elephanteraser · 18/08/2014 10:39

lol at modern women, was he in his 80s?

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Purpleflamingos · 18/08/2014 10:43

I love pointing out that everyone is a feminist. Even to teenage women that say they are not. My favourite lines are;

Do you feel you are entitled to hold an opinion and have it heard? - feminism was responsible for that.
Do you chose your own clothes and feel you should be able to walk down the street safely no matter how short your dress? - feminism was responsible for that.
Would you like to be married at 12 to a man chosen for you and possibly die in childbirth with the desicion as to whether you had access to drugs or medical care was your husbands and not yours? - feminism changes those conditions.

They walk away with something to think about.

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Vivacia · 18/08/2014 10:58

The rest of the conversation then went like this,

Him, "Are you a feminist?"
Me, "Of course I am, aren't you?"
Him, "No"
Me, "Don't you believe that me and you should have the same opportunities in life"
Him, with conviction, "Yes".
Me, "Well, that's all feminism is at the end of the day. Men and women should have the same opportunities".

(Did I do ok sisters?).

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Vivacia · 18/08/2014 12:19

Latest snippet, "I only use computers for one thing, looking at porn. That's all they're good for".

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weeonion · 18/08/2014 12:22

Urrrrgh at his last comment.

Poor you.

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JustTheRightBullets · 18/08/2014 12:26

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Swingball · 18/08/2014 12:30

Eeew I don't like the sound of him at all! Don't have him back

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Vivacia · 18/08/2014 12:36

I must say that that last comment, and one about "Ooh, cracking the whip" as I walked away has left me pissed off. When I started this thread it was a bit eye-rolling and light hearted. Now I feel uncomfortable.

For info - he's a one-man band, shouldn't be here long and I just want him get finished.

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Vivacia · 18/08/2014 12:45

Yes, I think you're right. I think he sees himself as a wind-up merchant. I have electricians and plumbers booked for the end of the week, so am reluctant to sack him when I can avoid him.

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weeonion · 18/08/2014 12:45

Yeuch OP, he sounds grim.

Make a phone call - real or pretend within his earshot to say that you have a workman there who feels it is ok to totally overstep boundaries, he is making you uncomfortable, you can't wait for him to leave and gou wont be using nor recommending him in future. End this call with saying what time you hope he is gone by and you will ring this person then to let them know that you are ok / safe.

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NigellasPeeler · 18/08/2014 12:49

sack him and get a woman in to do the job

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Vivacia · 18/08/2014 12:57

Oh, I did that JustThe. I put my mum-not-taking-prisoners face on, lowered my voice and said something like, "That's your own business, but we don't make comments like that in this house" and then allowed him to fill the silence.

(Do you think this means I don't have to sack him?).

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tribpot · 18/08/2014 12:57

I'd feel very uncomfortable being alone in a house with a man who felt entitled to make those kinds of comments. I appreciate you just want the work finished and to get him out, but that is indeed what he is banking on.

He's meant to be there for four days - I couldn't stomach it.

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weeonion · 18/08/2014 13:01

Oh,I missed that he was to be there for 4 days!! I thought he was only in today.

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Vivacia · 18/08/2014 13:08

Reflecting on other comments he has made, I am wondering why I didn't spot it before - something amiss.

I guess I thought something was out of the ordinary otherwise I wouldn't have started this thread. Ok, I have things in perspective thanks to you lot - this is my house and he's here to do a job. I am not a challenge, I am not a woman who needs breaking in.

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antimatter · 18/08/2014 13:12

Tell him - because I am such modern women I am holding back 10% of the payment I owe you in case something which job you've just finished goes wrong {there's some law about it, you could look it up}

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CKDexterHaven · 18/08/2014 13:14

I've become determined to seek out female handypeople after too much crap like this. For every lovely plumber or plasterer I've had at my house there's been one who's talked to me in a way I know he'd never talk to a man. They charge women double as well.

Please, please, please let more women go into these trades so they're easier to find.

I suppose the flipside is if you're a female plumber you have to go into the homes of men who regale you with their uncomfortable line of conversation.

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caramelwaffle · 18/08/2014 13:19

I would LOVE to have an easily accessible list of female tradeswomen.

(There's a business opportunity for the right woman)

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