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"How to seduce women" - a course in London

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kim147 Sun 02-Mar-14 20:11:43

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CaptChaos Sun 02-Mar-14 20:15:22

So, according to the 'pick-up artists', Oxford Street is a 'conveyor belt of hot women'. And there was I thinking it was a hideously overpriced, crowded shopping street. Silly old me!

NiceTabard Sun 02-Mar-14 20:43:12

Could they not do the "test" in a club or something, where at least women might be out on the pull? Rather than randomly annoying / accosting women who are out about their daily business?

A lot of women and girls find it intimidating / irritating when random blokes approach them. I know I do. Especially when they won't take no for an answer and fuck right off.

And how do they know the numbers they are given are real? And being given due to interest and not in a deseprate attempt to get them to piss off?

NiceTabard Sun 02-Mar-14 20:46:17

Just listened to the clip.

It seems that they are using the fact that women are socialised to be polite, in order to manipulate them into talking to them.

"Don't give her a chance to answer" the opener is apparently a great tip hmm

NiceTabard Sun 02-Mar-14 20:47:57

I would also be interested in understanding if there is a difference in how young, good looking men do vs men who are, well, not.

Also how they decide which women to target.

I assume they aren't approaching middle aged women with kids in tow, for example. What traits are they looking for? I wonder what that would reveal.

K8Middleton Sun 02-Mar-14 20:52:37

I heard the programme. On the face of it it sounds ghastly. And some of the "teachers'" comments were horrible. But it was mainly about teaching lonely blokes how to start conversations with women. Which is fine.

LizzieVereker Sun 02-Mar-14 21:02:04

I hate this idea that men have to be "slick operators" to get women to talk to them, like they need to pull some sort of con trick to get a date. I suppose it is a con trick, but the victims are the awkward, lonely men who can't meet women just by having a normal, pleasant conversation, and the con artists are the people making money out of these men.

On a different note, haven't see you around for ages, Kim147 how are you? Your posts are always interesting.

kim147 Sun 02-Mar-14 21:05:24

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PenguinsEatSpinach Sun 02-Mar-14 21:16:13

It was ghastly wasn't it. I only heard bits.

Quodlibet Sun 02-Mar-14 21:23:54

I eavesdropped on one of these courses once - it was at the south bank centre. My friends and I could not believe some of the crap the female instructor was coming out with.

Muddiboots Sun 02-Mar-14 21:24:40

Was really cross listening to that programme. Lots of talk of " players " and then sending follow up texts to "make them think they were the ones being forward"
The most gender divisive thing I have heard on the radio for along time
Did feel sorry for some of the guys on the course (which cost hundreds of pounds) obviously they were shy and wanted to meet girls, but really this is not the way.
Treating woman like slightly stupid lumps of meat

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Sun 02-Mar-14 23:47:19

It sounds like chugging tactics!

Innogen Sun 02-Mar-14 23:48:29

Surely setting them out in the real world is just pot luck? Someone, eventually, will say yes?

Faux success if ever I've seen one.

AnswersThroughHaiku Mon 03-Mar-14 09:54:32

I knew a guy once
Who ran these sort of courses
But he said that the

Majority of
Participants were women
As men were too proud

To accept the help.
Mind you, his course was about
Finding dates, not sex.

Breakage Mon 03-Mar-14 10:01:09

I agree with everything that's been said but is it really any different to courses that teach you networking skills or "How to win friends and influence people" type workshops"

People want/need to learn how to conduct themselves in order to make the most of social situations. Some are fortunate enough to have it come naturally or to have learned it form their parent or others, some need to be taught.

It's unpalatable to think of anyone taking advantage of their social skills for personal gain but it happens all the time, in fact it's what makes the world go round.

BertieBotts Mon 03-Mar-14 10:03:27

Ugh, I think it's horrible.

How about just talking to someone and being yourself. No point putting on a false persona, that's not a basis for a relationship confused

If it's for sex rather than dating then it sounds like "coercion and manipulation lite".

StickEmUpBigStyle Mon 10-Mar-14 21:49:14

Ew

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