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Did the feminists burn their bras for nothing?

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debssm · 16/05/2013 08:33

Majority of British women would pick being a housewife over having a career

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2324926/Majority-British-women-pick-housewife-having-career.html#ixzz2TX4wzx00

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ifancyashandy · 16/05/2013 08:35

It's the Mail which means a) am not clicking and b) well, like duh! It's the Mail, they would say that Grin!

Not casting aspersions on you, but most definitely am on DM.

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TwoFourSixOhOne · 16/05/2013 08:35

What a ridiculous article.

If they'd asked only SAHM's, the majority would have answered that they'd 'secretly' rather go out to work.

Betcha.

The grass is greener and all that.

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TwoFourSixOhOne · 16/05/2013 08:36

Urgh and I've just read it further.

Being a SAHM is not being financially dependant on your husband, it just means that one of you is doing the childcare (which you would otherwise pay £££ for).

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debssm · 16/05/2013 08:59

you might not like the DM but the poll was conducted by fashion website mycelebrityfashion.co.uk,

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Picturepuncture · 16/05/2013 09:00

I'm not sure that that makes it more reliable!

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Picturepuncture · 16/05/2013 09:01

How big was the sample? How were the respondents found?

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debssm · 16/05/2013 09:04

read the article

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Picturepuncture · 16/05/2013 09:06

On the DM? No thanks.

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debssm · 16/05/2013 09:07

then you may excuse yourself from the thread as the thread is about the article

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Fairylea · 16/05/2013 09:08

The point is that we now have a choice.

Choosing to be a sahm or person at home is absolutely fine and a valid choice (and one that I myself have made over a highly paid career).

But the point is it is a choice. Not one that is forced upon anyone anymore either by men or social expectations.

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BIWI · 16/05/2013 09:11

I doubt very much that it will be a properly conducted piece of market research, and I'm certainly not going to go through to the Daily Mail to check.

If you'd like us to debate the issues properly, and as you've already read the article, perhaps you could let us know:

  • who conducted the survey? (i.e. was it a market research agency or just a survey monkey piece done by the fashion website)
  • how many respondents took part?
  • how was the sample constructed - was it a nationally representative sample?


Then we can talk.
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BIWI · 16/05/2013 09:12

Oh, and welcome to Mumsnet, by the way.

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HoneyDragon · 16/05/2013 09:12

Not clicked the link, but if its the survey I'm thinking of the gist was would you rather be a Sahm than work. Which IMO is a different kettle of fish entirely Grin.

If it is the one it annoyed me as the SAHP aspect was gender bias to mothers and the wording inferred if you had the funds would you stay at home.

I personally would volunteer to walk round with cock womble written in my forehead if it meant I was magically set financially so I could bunk off work for the foreseeable future. Wink

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Picturepuncture · 16/05/2013 09:13

Grin Grin

I thought it was about whether or not feminists burnt their bras for nothing?

And then someone else raised an interesting point about the reliability of DM journalism / the original survey which I was trying to extend.

No ones ever told me to fuck off quite so eloquently before, I rather like it Grin

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fluffymindy · 16/05/2013 09:13

Being a SAHM is a valid choice. It s an important job and should not be seen as less valuable than having a career....

The women who replied 'yes', were then asked if they felt pressure from other women to be independent and 74 per cent confessed they did.

Is this your idea of feminism? Feeling pressured by other women? Nice and if it is the case yes, they did burn their bras for nothing

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Fairylea · 16/05/2013 09:15

Absolutely fluffy.

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ICBINEG · 16/05/2013 09:25

feminists definitely burned their bras for nothing if the survey only asked women if they would rather be SAHP than work...

Maybe EVERYONE would rather be a SAHP than work....

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debssm · 16/05/2013 09:25

I'm not prepared to do your research for you

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Picturepuncture · 16/05/2013 09:31

Nobody's asking you to do research!? I've done plenty of research into feminism and social attitudes as I'm sure have others on the thread. We were just asking you to extract a couple of 'facts' from your dubious article, a survey done by a fashion company and reported in the DM doesn't count as 'research' and that's why we won't give it oxygen by reading it.

We're quite happy to talk and debate with you, but you don't seem to want that?

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BIWI · 16/05/2013 09:34

Hmm. I wonder why that might be, Picture?!

debssm - as you're new to Mumsnet, you might like to know that many of us prefer not to read the Daily Mail, and as clicking through to their website means more money in their coffers, that is something that we don't want to do either.

However we are always up for a good debate (understatement Grin) and your OP sounds worthy of discussion.

How hard is it to provide the details we're asking for?

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Picturepuncture · 16/05/2013 09:37

Grin I wonder

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debssm · 16/05/2013 09:41

I'm not looking for a debate I just thought I'd share it. I didn't write it and I'm not making any claims.

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BIWI · 16/05/2013 09:42

Nobody is saying you did write it - but we'd like to debate it with you, after all you asked the question in your thread title!

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BIWI · 16/05/2013 09:43

So what was the point of your OP?

What point were you trying to make?

What do you think of the article?

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Picturepuncture · 16/05/2013 09:45

Did you want us to read it and say 'oh yes, how right the DM are, feminism was pointless' ...laugh and get on with our day?

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