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Did the feminists burn their bras for nothing?

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debssm Thu 16-May-13 08:33:08

Majority of British women would pick being a housewife over having a career

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ifancyashandy Thu 16-May-13 08:35:39

It's the Mail which means a) am not clicking and b) well, like duh! It's the Mail, they would say that grin!

Not casting aspersions on you, but most definitely am on DM.

TwoFourSixOhOne Thu 16-May-13 08:35:39

What a ridiculous article.

If they'd asked only SAHM's, the majority would have answered that they'd 'secretly' rather go out to work.


The grass is greener and all that.

TwoFourSixOhOne Thu 16-May-13 08:36:56

Urgh and I've just read it further.

Being a SAHM is not being financially dependant on your husband, it just means that one of you is doing the childcare (which you would otherwise pay £££ for).

debssm Thu 16-May-13 08:59:42

you might not like the DM but the poll was conducted by fashion website,

Picturepuncture Thu 16-May-13 09:00:36

I'm not sure that that makes it more reliable!

Picturepuncture Thu 16-May-13 09:01:14

How big was the sample? How were the respondents found?

debssm Thu 16-May-13 09:04:49

read the article

Picturepuncture Thu 16-May-13 09:06:32

On the DM? No thanks.

debssm Thu 16-May-13 09:07:46

then you may excuse yourself from the thread as the thread is about the article

Fairylea Thu 16-May-13 09:08:35

The point is that we now have a choice.

Choosing to be a sahm or person at home is absolutely fine and a valid choice (and one that I myself have made over a highly paid career).

But the point is it is a choice. Not one that is forced upon anyone anymore either by men or social expectations.

BIWI Thu 16-May-13 09:11:57

I doubt very much that it will be a properly conducted piece of market research, and I'm certainly not going to go through to the Daily Mail to check.

If you'd like us to debate the issues properly, and as you've already read the article, perhaps you could let us know:

- who conducted the survey? (i.e. was it a market research agency or just a survey monkey piece done by the fashion website)
- how many respondents took part?
- how was the sample constructed - was it a nationally representative sample?

Then we can talk.

BIWI Thu 16-May-13 09:12:24

Oh, and welcome to Mumsnet, by the way.

HoneyDragon Thu 16-May-13 09:12:52

Not clicked the link, but if its the survey I'm thinking of the gist was would you rather be a Sahm than work. Which IMO is a different kettle of fish entirely grin.

If it is the one it annoyed me as the SAHP aspect was gender bias to mothers and the wording inferred if you had the funds would you stay at home.

I personally would volunteer to walk round with cock womble written in my forehead if it meant I was magically set financially so I could bunk off work for the foreseeable future. wink

Picturepuncture Thu 16-May-13 09:13:23

grin grin

I thought it was about whether or not feminists burnt their bras for nothing?

And then someone else raised an interesting point about the reliability of DM journalism / the original survey which I was trying to extend.

No ones ever told me to fuck off quite so eloquently before, I rather like it grin

fluffymindy Thu 16-May-13 09:13:37

Being a SAHM is a valid choice. It s an important job and should not be seen as less valuable than having a career....

The women who replied 'yes', were then asked if they felt pressure from other women to be independent and 74 per cent confessed they did.

Is this your idea of feminism? Feeling pressured by other women? Nice and if it is the case yes, they did burn their bras for nothing

Fairylea Thu 16-May-13 09:15:15

Absolutely fluffy.

ICBINEG Thu 16-May-13 09:25:34

feminists definitely burned their bras for nothing if the survey only asked women if they would rather be SAHP than work...

Maybe EVERYONE would rather be a SAHP than work....

debssm Thu 16-May-13 09:25:54

I'm not prepared to do your research for you

Picturepuncture Thu 16-May-13 09:31:11

Nobody's asking you to do research!? I've done plenty of research into feminism and social attitudes as I'm sure have others on the thread. We were just asking you to extract a couple of 'facts' from your dubious article, a survey done by a fashion company and reported in the DM doesn't count as 'research' and that's why we won't give it oxygen by reading it.

We're quite happy to talk and debate with you, but you don't seem to want that?

BIWI Thu 16-May-13 09:34:12

Hmm. I wonder why that might be, Picture?!

debssm - as you're new to Mumsnet, you might like to know that many of us prefer not to read the Daily Mail, and as clicking through to their website means more money in their coffers, that is something that we don't want to do either.

However we are always up for a good debate (understatement grin) and your OP sounds worthy of discussion.

How hard is it to provide the details we're asking for?

Picturepuncture Thu 16-May-13 09:37:59

grin I wonder

debssm Thu 16-May-13 09:41:12

I'm not looking for a debate I just thought I'd share it. I didn't write it and I'm not making any claims.

BIWI Thu 16-May-13 09:42:49

Nobody is saying you did write it - but we'd like to debate it with you, after all you asked the question in your thread title!

BIWI Thu 16-May-13 09:43:44

So what was the point of your OP?

What point were you trying to make?

What do you think of the article?

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