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How crap is the news at the moment?

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kim147 Tue 07-May-13 19:59:37

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

iclaudius Wed 08-May-13 11:36:39

And all too frequently pillars of the community goblin

CheerfulYank Wed 08-May-13 11:39:18

I liked, too, in his 911 call how he described Ms Berry as being "in a panic" and then said "well she said she been kidnapped, so you know, put yourself in her shoes." smile

BubblesOfBliss Wed 08-May-13 11:42:05

I am so horrified to realise that the extreme stress those women were under didn't abate - Berry saw the opportunity and tried to escape after 10 years- she hadn't been ground down - I almost hope that part of you would just die in that situation to get through it, but it doesn't - what an ordeal to endure every minute of every day for all that time!

Recently, with all these amazing survivors of prostitution speaking out, I keep being reminded that no amount of abuse makes someone less than human- there is a full human being experiencing every millisecond of abuse in its tiniest granularity, no matter how much we like to speak about the minds ability to 'suppress' or 'split-off' from trauma. It is horror in high-definition - not some hazy half-reality sad

GoblinGranny Wed 08-May-13 11:43:14

To be a successful abuser, other people have to think you incapable of it, so that dodgy things that would flash alarm bells in a more 'suspicious' character go unremarked or are explained away.
Look at the number of times someone has been targeted because they looked weird, or behaved oddly and prejudice kicks in, and they have been proved innocent of any wrong-doing.

BubblesOfBliss Wed 08-May-13 11:46:31

"Look at the number of times someone has been targeted because they looked weird, or behaved oddly and prejudice kicks in, and they have been proved innocent of any wrong-doing."

Yes throughout the years this has been because of disability, learning disability, mental illness, being a 'foreigner' or some other prejudicial tendency to mistrust. In harsh times vulnerable people get scapegoated.

iclaudius Wed 08-May-13 12:01:00

Yes totally agree goblin

boxershorts Wed 08-May-13 12:04:17

KIM......whaty a load of sad news. ? Does it have to be that way. Could not more happy items be put on the news?

TheFallenNinja Wed 08-May-13 12:20:17

I fear it would take vast amounts of good news to counterbalance the current crop of abject desperate stories we have at the moment.

happybubblebrain Wed 08-May-13 12:28:42

The current news; past news; most men I have known and state of the world (run by men) all make me hate men. And I'm not ashamed to admit it. It's time they sorted themselves out. I know there are a few good men, but they seem to be in a minority.

TunipTheVegedude Wed 08-May-13 12:40:23

I think it's more a case of evil triumphing through good men not doing anything.
Just like, relatively few men are rapists but very few of the ones who aren't give two hoots about the status quo in which most rapists get away with it.

namechangeguy Wed 08-May-13 12:48:55

Happy - how should men 'sort themselves out'? How would one go about it?

BubblesOfBliss Wed 08-May-13 12:54:27

namechangeguy how should men 'sort themselves out'? How would one go about it?

Perhaps take an interest in some of the programmes for men Jackson Katz etc as a starting point.

namechangeguy Wed 08-May-13 13:00:14

That one has to be paid for, Bubbles. Any free resources that you know of?

BubblesOfBliss Wed 08-May-13 13:13:42

Quickly googled Jackson Katz and this video comes up and there are lots to follow. Other names are Robert Jensen for more uk based get involved with The White Ribbon Campaign ..

NiceTabard Wed 08-May-13 13:14:04

Via the economic political judicial power etc that they hold worldwide?

Just off the top of my head.

namechangeguy Wed 08-May-13 13:34:00

That's fair enough, NT. I'll watch what the economists, politicians and judges do with interest, then. Thanks for the links, BoB.

HairyLittleCarrot Wed 08-May-13 14:48:14

I was just thinking this, OP. Awful. Also how, with all of this going on, the lead story today is....
Alex Ferguson's retirement.hmm

Seriously? How is that important? It's barely news. he's retiring. the end. move on to Actual News.angry

Lessthanaballpark Wed 08-May-13 16:50:19

It's weird cos if it were a case of one ethnic group perpetually doing this to another, the news would call it "racist violence" or a "racist attack", and ask questions about WHY?

But in the case of these kidnappings, no one seems to say "hold on, why are the perpetrators almost always men and why are the victims almost always women or girls?"

Is it just that we've become so used to it, or is that people are afraid of appearing sexist against men?

I don't want us to look at the gender aspect in order to berate men because the rescuers are often men also (eg. this case) but just to understand WHY some men do this, so we can think of ways to stop them!

WilsonFrickett Wed 08-May-13 17:12:40

lessthan it's chilling isn't it? If this was a war it would be seen as ethnic cleansing. I am very sad today. The Tia Sharpe case is really getting to me.

rosabud Wed 08-May-13 22:30:14

What I find so extraordinary is that despite story after story after story being about male violence against women, there is till not a national debate about it, it is still not possible to discuss the issue of male violence outside a feminist context without people attempting to derail with constant repeated chippings in of 'Women are violent too!'

Very very true. Already there is some numpty upthread who, instead of engaging in the debate about male violence, thought it was more important to defend pornography hmm

thecatfromjapan Wed 08-May-13 22:32:09

It is bizarre that there are all these stories, and yet no mention of the gender /sex dimension, ie. they are mostly crimes by men against women, and female children - with gender as a driving factor in the crime.

So glad I found this thread. Have been feeling like I'm going mad.

Thanks kim147.

trixymalixy Wed 08-May-13 22:34:16

I was thinking exactly this earlier today. Was thinking of starting a post about it too. sad

kim147 Wed 08-May-13 22:37:51

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Darkesteyes Wed 08-May-13 22:49:35

Just seen this on Twitter about Charles Ramsey. Apparently hes been convicted of domestic abuse in the past.

FloraFox Wed 08-May-13 22:50:31

NorthernLurker All crimes exist in a context and the context of these two appears to have featured pornography. I don't really see why anyone would want to deny the part that may have played.

Hey now, we can't have anything said that might affect their sexy time, no? After all, their right to get off is more important than the effects on others, no? Just a bit of harmless fun, no matter how vile or violent.

Or not.

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