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Oh dear god - Steubenville Ohio footballer rape case

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StuffezLaBouche Sun 17-Mar-13 16:41:03

My heart leapt when I saw they'd been found guilty.
Ten I saw the sentence.
A fucking YEAR!
It's like the whole world conspires against victims of rape...

MiniTheMinx Tue 19-Mar-13 15:00:42

Thank you NicholasTeakozy

I agree with some of the posts saying that the young men didn't feel remorse only sorry for being found guilty.

"One of the young men, Ma’lik Richmond, as that sentence came down, he collapsed,” the CNN reporter recalled, adding that the convicted rapist told his attorney that “my life is over, no one is going to want me now.”

to the end thinking about themselves.

However it is society that teaches these young men their values, it is media that portrays women as toys and teaches young women not to aspire to be anything else. It is society that peddles the idea that there are good women and there are women who deserve to be raped. Pornography shapes these young men's sexuality and tells them that women say no when they really mean yes. And at the centre of all this, hundreds of years of socialisation that tells men that women who drink, women who dress in a certain way, women who are poor, women who are not their daughters or wives, who behave in anyway unlike the virgin mary are to be despised, should be held in utter contempt. It is these women that men should take out their anger on because they feel unequal to other men. These young men are the foot soldiers to the patriarchy, they too are victims in this war to maintain class hierarchies and white male privilege over all of us. Its no different to sending working class young men into Afghanistan to have their legs blown off. Its all done to maintain social power over other men. We women the victims in all this.......well we were never that important anyway sad

slug Tue 19-Mar-13 15:33:10

mungotracy there was no jury because the boys were tried as juveniles.

mungotracy Tue 19-Mar-13 15:38:17

Slug thats cool if thats the case. Not all US states remove juries from juvenille trials unlike in the UK....

Nor does it render moot that no unbiased jury could have been appointed in any case due too social media.

notimefors Tue 19-Mar-13 16:35:12

Has anyone linked the Laurie Penny New Statesman article yet?

BabyMakesTheBellyGoRound Tue 19-Mar-13 17:11:23

That CNN clip made me very angry,with all this talk of the lasting effect on the rapists,WHAT ABOUT THE LASTING EFFECTS ON THE VICTIM?!!angry

FastidiaBlueberry Tue 19-Mar-13 21:47:17

That Michael Crook bloke is clearly a very dangerous man to women.

It's one thing to say you don't believe that someone was raped.

It's quite another thing to say that rape doesn't actually exist as a concept.

Most rape apologists do acknowledge that it exists and believe themselves to be disapproving of it.

Not this one...

FastidiaBlueberry Tue 19-Mar-13 21:55:46

That Laurie Penny article is really good.

SingingSilver Tue 19-Mar-13 23:27:14

There is a petition demanding that CNN apologises. It has over 200,000 signatures

SingingSilver Tue 19-Mar-13 23:29:26

I found the link through this article

The petition is not just to demand an apology but also to, ‘devote an hour long, prime time segment to rape, it’s victims, what can be done to prevent it, and how to change the culture that gives rise to this violent crime.’

TeiTetua Wed 20-Mar-13 00:24:54

If you want to feel worse about this business, "Two teenage girls were arrested in Ohio on Monday and accused of using social media to threaten the young victim in a high-profile rape trial that concluded this past weekend". What would persuade girls to do this to another girl?

SingingSilver Wed 20-Mar-13 00:33:04

The society they are living in...

BabyMakesTheBellyGoRound Wed 20-Mar-13 07:01:50

This case reminds me of the Listowel case a few years back,where a girl was sexually assaulted by a local man and people lined up to shake his hand in court. She was shunned by local people too.

NicholasTeakozy Wed 20-Mar-13 12:19:09

The blogger who helped the investigation and got threatened, sued, and lost her best friend. Well played to her.

Hattifattner Wed 20-Mar-13 14:46:40

superb article comparing steubenville photos to Abu Ghraib...very thought provoking

TeiTetua Wed 20-Mar-13 16:02:30

I would very much like to hear--maybe it's going to be possible now the trial is over--what people who defended the perpetrators here have to say about their own role. Like those two girls who are themselves in trouble for threatening the victim, or like the blogger's former best friend. I'd like to hear them give an explanation for their attitude; in a way those people are more interesting than the rapists, because their motivation is so murky. "You've done your best to punish the people who've called for the crime to be punished--why? What do you really want to see punished and what should be praised? And the treatment of crime is a public matter--do you want what you've done to be made public?"

SingingSilver Wed 20-Mar-13 22:45:07

Laci Green has made a vlog about the case, very good video (I don't know how to make links active sorry)

NicholasTeakozy Thu 21-Mar-13 07:28:09

SingingSilver's Link is a great take from a young woman blowing myths out of the water.

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