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Dildos & Vibrators

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kickassangel Wed 06-Feb-13 00:56:12

OK - so in my class about Fraternity & Freemasons last night we ended up with the teacher telling us how the clitoris is the only part of a woman's body that has the nerve endings which will bring about an orgasm. That the vagina doesn't have the right amount of nerves. (Believe me, it made perfect sense for this to happen in a lecture on the history of 1800s freemasons.)

Anyway - my thought was - I get why penetrative sex exists, but WHY do sex shops sell dildos & vibrators?

I've never actually seen either in rl (yes, honestly), so maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't it make more sense for there to be sex toys that stimulate the clitoris, not the vagina?

And yes, the obvious answer is that we're meant to need a man & his penis, so that's what we get sold.

kickassangel Wed 06-Feb-13 12:28:25


I need to find a man who can.

fallenangle Wed 06-Feb-13 12:35:30

Vaginal orgasms definitely exist OP. doggy position does it for me. Freemasonary and the Clitoral Orgasm. Now there is an evening class title I want to see.

FreyaSnow Wed 06-Feb-13 12:43:36

Part of the clitoris is around the opening to the vagina, so you are stimulating part of the clitoris through penetrative sex. Most women don't involve penetration in masturbation but some do. I would also assume a lot of the dildos sold are used for men to penetrate themselves during masturbation.

BigSpork Wed 06-Feb-13 12:59:08

The clitoral nerves aren't just in the nub, they extend around the vagina opening and even into the perineum. I don't have the nerve diagram I used to have but the picture on the wiki of Clitoris (http://karnythia.tumblr.com/post/39510241094/autistic-scientist-not-ever-seeing-this seen enlarged here with commentary from another) shows how the clitoris has multiple parts and wraps around the entire area which can lead some to find insertion [which stretches and rubs part of it]or perineum stimulation very pleasureable.

There are also sex toys for pretty much any chosen stimulation.

BigSpork Wed 06-Feb-13 12:59:37

retry link

feministefatale Wed 06-Feb-13 21:24:55

I did double check your name to make sure it wasn't Kickasssangel or some other..sneaky trick by a hairy handed trucker....

Anyway short answer (for me anyway is) PIV feels really good. I have an orgasm from clitoral stimulation but I can't go straight for the goods, or it's too much if that makes sense. I have to work my way up to that. And even then a machine is too..well, mechanical. So I use a combination of dildo/finger work for spectacular effect.

It's like nipple stimulation, I couldn't orgasm from it but I could happily waste weeks hours letting dh play with them blush

feministefatale Wed 06-Feb-13 21:25:41

Off to name change now.

HairyHandedTrucker Wed 06-Feb-13 21:28:51

How was this available? shock grin

Darkesteyes Wed 06-Feb-13 21:38:26

Im one of those women that cannot come through penetration. It has to be clitoral.
i didnt have a proper full orgasm with a man until i was 31 and that was with my ex OM.
If i have a clitoral orgasm first and then go on top i find being on top very pleasurable but i wont orgasm again from it.

Sorry TMI.

Startail Wed 06-Feb-13 21:45:48

I think we need this talk for my WI

motherinferior Wed 06-Feb-13 21:50:39

Can I recommend you visit this very lovely shop which is staffed by lovely lesbian feminists who will offer you a nice cup of coffee and discuss the fabulous array of stimuli on offer?

No one has ever made me come blush

I can do it with someone there but not by them doing it iyswim.

kickassangel Thu 07-Feb-13 02:12:23

Now, I am absolutely not going to click on any links, OR mention this conversation at college next week.

anyway - I think the lecturer may have overstated things a little when she said that the only way to have an orgasm was through the clitoris. I was pretty certain I'd experienced one from PIV sex, but it did leave me wondering if somehow I'd been doing it wrong all this time. Then I wondered just what the point of a 'standard' vibrator was (althgouh I did know about the rabbit, hard not to on mn)

kickassangel Thu 07-Feb-13 02:28:24

Oh dear lord, it's started already. I'm getting ads for vibrators all over the place now. So much for letting dd see my facebook page.

Tortoiseonthehalfshell Thu 07-Feb-13 04:35:57


OldLadyKnowsNothing Thu 07-Feb-13 05:02:51

Clear your cookies, ads won't be a problem.

Though you might have to explain....

Clear your history, at least!

kickassangel Thu 07-Feb-13 19:21:11

honestly - I'm not going on any of the links.

I could just try typing 'fluffy kittens' several times to see if the ads change. Better not refer to ra**its too much though.

HairyHandedTrucker Thu 07-Feb-13 21:07:49

Oh go on kickass all the real feminist know all about this sort of thing.. so you will look well rubbish at the meetings if you don't click grin

kickassangel Thu 07-Feb-13 23:59:58

but Trucker (I love that someone is called that now), I do the feminist course in the evenings.

During the day I teach in the kind of school where saying 'Oh God' could get me fired! Imagine what would happen if I was looking up websites & a load of inappropriate adverts managed to slip past the firewall.

I'd have some 'splaining to do.

Darkesteyes Fri 08-Feb-13 01:08:58

For those of us who hate mornings.


Fallenangle Fri 08-Feb-13 10:55:02

Darkest It looks like a brilliant idea, but I need something to make me get out of bed, not make me want to stay there all morning grin

Mitchy1nge Fri 08-Feb-13 11:00:04

do they ship to the UK?

Scrazy Fri 08-Feb-13 11:11:37

Ahem, women can have vaginal orgasms, as well as clitoral and anal. The clitoral type and not the only ones. Therefore a cock shaped vibe, placed in the vagina or wrong un could achieve orgasm without touching the clitoris. So I have heard. Should have name changed blush

Try one OP grin.

Fallenangle Fri 08-Feb-13 11:19:21

Or try two for that full up feeling! I'll get my coat...

FreyaSnow Fri 08-Feb-13 12:01:10

Scrazy, the point is, as Spork was saying, that the clitoris is much more extensive than people think. It is impossible to insert something in the vagina without touching the clitoris because clitoral material surrounds the vaginal opening. So a vaginal orgasm is a clitoral orgasm.

As we're all being so sharing, I orgasm from touching the bottom part of my vulva, without penetration or touching the clitoral head. It is still a clitoral orgasm because I am touching clitoral material that is under the skin.

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