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LRDtheFeministDragon Wed 23-Jan-13 22:48:17

With thanks to the lovely timetosmile - here's the new and rejuvenated Chat Thread.

Space to yak on, rant, post any of the good and bad stuff ... just basically any chat that you don't feel fits into a specific post. With a side order of reclaiming the word 'gossip'.

StewieGriffinsMom Wed 23-Jan-13 22:54:35

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LRDtheFeministDragon Wed 23-Jan-13 23:00:46

A bubble bath? shock

Are you sure that's feminist?


I would love to have a space where we can just yak on a bit. Now, what newspaper would we get in the feminist chat room? I'm assuming we have nice comfy big sofas and plenty of coffee on tap - but I can't quite see the Guardian being the paper of choice! What should I be reading?

StewieGriffinsMom Wed 23-Jan-13 23:04:37

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StewieGriffinsMom Wed 23-Jan-13 23:05:11

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LRDtheFeministDragon Wed 23-Jan-13 23:11:00

Oh, I will check out the blog, then.

I don't get any papers but I enjoy blogs.

I am only having sour grapes about the bath. I don't have heating atm so am wishing I had anything nice and warm!

kim147 Wed 23-Jan-13 23:16:36

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AnyFucker Wed 23-Jan-13 23:22:52

I have recently been reading the New Statesman online at work

LRDtheFeministDragon Wed 23-Jan-13 23:27:01

True, kim. I do like a nice large newspaper. I don't 'get' tablets.

Come the revolution, we shall all have good newsprint as we desire.

AF - I should do that. I think what I find difficult is that with newspapers, you get them delivered through the door so you remember to sit and read them. I get too easily distracted from blogs/online versions. blush

doyouwantfrieswiththat Wed 23-Jan-13 23:30:17

I'd bring Private Eye for the cartoons and The Week for the property porn.

LRDtheFeministDragon Wed 23-Jan-13 23:44:54

I don't know The Week - I quite enjoy a lot of Private Eye, while being uncomfortable with some of it too.

Sunnywithshowers Wed 23-Jan-13 23:45:51

kim I don't do tablets either. But I am on the sofa using my laptop smile

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Wed 23-Jan-13 23:50:45

The Week is good - get your news in one handy format without too much "Comment" to rile you up! Plus posh properties and a recipe of the week.

doyouwantfrieswiththat Wed 23-Jan-13 23:50:55

a lightweight look at the news and an american version I see

AbigailAdams Wed 23-Jan-13 23:52:00

I'd bring Gardner's World

<picks up coat on the way out>

doyouwantfrieswiththat Wed 23-Jan-13 23:54:38

Abigail grin I like a bit of gardening myself. I just spotted a link to the Fortean Times on the other website, now there is an odd read.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Wed 23-Jan-13 23:56:31

PS MNHQ has started a Science and Nature Club which I requested a while ago on the back of a discussion thread about physics for girls that lots of feMNists took part in - short topic plug!

AbigailAdams Thu 24-Jan-13 00:00:11

I didn't know that. Mumsnet can be pretty amazing sometimes! I'm off to check it out. Thanks Doctrine.

Fortean Times, now there's a blast from the past!

doyouwantfrieswiththat Thu 24-Jan-13 00:07:38

I'll have to have a look over there tomorrow Doctrine, there was an interesting programme on R4 last Wed about how Visa issues were discouraging top scientists from joining UK research groups when the same stringent criteria weren't being applied to (for instance) football transfers.

Science feels so undervalued in the UK, if I were a chemistry teacher I would have to convince people to love the subject because the financial rewards aren't proportional to the work required.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Thu 24-Jan-13 09:23:43

I do think governments try various initiatives to value science (eg current program on Alzheimer's Disease) but somehow the perception down in schools is "boring, hard, geeky" etc.

'Twas ever thus, though. My mum, at an all girls' school, doing Maths/science A levels, was forced to do an afternoon of "arts" each week. Were those doing arts subjects made to do an afternoon of science? That would be a "no".

Right, back to the feminist chat grin - how was your bubble bath, SGM? I tried one on Tuesday but it wasn't so relaxing with DS1 getting out of bed every five minutes and coming in to check how many bubbles I had left.

TerrariaMum Thu 24-Jan-13 09:27:29

I want to have a look at that too.

Science isn't just undervalued in the UK, I was thinking back to my own science education in secondary school in the States and it was rubbish.

I'm more interested in the basics of the various STEM fields as I feel I never got a good grounding in them at all.

On a more random note, DH pointed out something about the Disney Mary Poppins that I never noticed and now it is really bothering me. He pointed out that Mrs. Banks being involved in the suffragette movement is portrayed as this terribly frivolous unimportant thing that keeps her away from her REAL duties of being a 'proper' mother. Anyone else notice this?

timetosmile Thu 24-Jan-13 09:41:30

marking my place at work

LRDtheFeministDragon Thu 24-Jan-13 09:43:32

I feel the same terraria. I wish I'd been taught more science/maths.

doctrine - ah, we did. We had the dreaded 'general studies' lessons where all the sciency types had to sit and listen to someone pontificating about arty-farty crap and all the arts students had to do bits of basic maths. I don't recall it taught us anything, though.

MiniTheMinx Thu 24-Jan-13 10:06:32

I think the problem starts in primary school with no expert teaching of science.

I always liked maths, still do and have run maths clubs for primary. So many girls lack confidence, why? who is telling these girls that they can't "do" maths? where does it start?

I have been reading the New Statesman, would never have found it if it were not for the feminist section on MN, thank you. I don't read bloggs, I can't get into it.

doyouwantfrieswiththat Thu 24-Jan-13 10:20:55

I suppose my bugbear is that I would be paid more to teach science than to practice it,in my experience the majority of grunt work in labs is done by women. I've worked on production sites and the warehousemen were paid almost twice as much as the quality control analysts. It sends the message that the job has no value.

Why work your socks off to do a science degree if you can't earn a living wage from it?

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