Company that has sold 'funny' rape tshirts and Amnesty International?

[TheRealTillyMinto]

SGM posted this thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1316926-Another-offensive-t-shirt-which-is-an-incitement-to-rape?pg=1

i think there is a link to this company: //www.chargrilled.co.uk as the both sell exactly the same rape is funny tshirts.

who have a 'charity' arm: www.chargrilled.org/

who claim to make tshirts for charities such as Amnesty International.

W....T....F....??

[DontCallMeFrothyDragon]

Will be writing a VERY angry letter explaining why when I get in.

[TheRealTillyMinto]

e.g. on amazon:

www.amazon.co.uk/Calm-Down-Dear-Lets-Murder/dp/B005ELTKDI?tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-21

Product Specifications

Department: Mens, Boys
Brand: CharGrilled
Material Composition: 100% Cotton

[DontCallMeFrothyDragon]

Can someone explain how that t-shirt links to the name they've given it?

[TheRealTillyMinto]

and also:

www.amazon.co.uk/People-Enjoy-Funny-shirt-CharGrilled/dp/B00423IVI4/ref=sr_1_1?s=clothing&ie=UTF8&qid=1318170860&sr=1-1&tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-21

9/10 People Enjoy Gang Rape!

Product Specifications

Department: Mens, Boys
Brand: CharGrilled
Material Composition: 100% Cotton

[TheRealTillyMinto]

click on the brown colour option and see the text appear: Calm Down Dear Let's Not Turn This Rape Into A Murder

[TheRealTillyMinto]

i think the other pictures are an error

[giyadas]

I can't imagine that any of those charities would like to be associated with rape is funny t-shirts. But Amnesty is the most ironic one on the list.
Is there any way of getting an opinion from Amnesty? Or any of the charities?

[Devlin11]

Don't be surprised if some of these charities could care less. Exacerbating the problem only makes more money for them, and the term "non-profit" often means "just another tax shelter".

Besides, why cure the problem, when you can just treat it? Pharmaceutical companies have been doing it for years, often while creating new problems to "treat". The various Psychiatric Boards have been doing it as well.

Is it any wonder that various charities, the domestic violence industry, and politicians have done the same?

It's just another way to get more money, at the expense of society, all while creating distrust and fear-mongering between people. The people can't very well take a stand on these corrupt practices if they are so divided by fear and hate.

[DontCallMeFrothyDragon]

ehhh, what?

[DontCallMeFrothyDragon]

Sorry, Devlin. Your last post has confused me. Could you clarify it for me please?

[Tortington]

amnesty.org.uk/content.asp?CategoryID=342#mu amnesty contact

i have written

I have supported you, was heavily involved in rallying support for troy davis campaign online and this makes me furious

please explain, i would like a formal response

[DontCallMeFrothyDragon]

Custardo, that probably puts it more succintly than I would...

I'm a long term supporter of theirs, and not only on the TD case. To be supported by such a company, for me, feels like they're going back on so much of what they stand for, and so much of what I believe in. :( Which... Meh. I can't even find the words to describe how I feel about this.

[DontCallMeFrothyDragon]

Actually, may just phone them tomorrow... :) Speaking person to person may be more efficient than an email

[KRITIQ]

It's just possible that Amnesty aren't aware of the company's connection. I saw the other thread, and it seems there are a few related or subsidiary companies with different names.

However, important thing will be when it's brought to their attention, what they actually do.

I'm confused by Devlin11's post as well, btw.

[SweetTheSting]

Ugh, I can't believe this is on Amazon. I have emailled Amazon to ask them to take it down (via "Help - FAQ- Contact- Contact us button" - then log in to account -then "select '1. something else' then select 'other non-order questions' twice against 2. and 3. and then write in the box" - there's probably a quicker way to get there but I couldn't see it so I have listed it out!!)

This is what I wrote in case it's of help to anyone, hope it's coherent as I was very :

Dear Amazon

Please can you stop selling or promoting this disgusting T-Shirt.
www.amazon.co.uk/People-Enjoy-Funny-shirt-CharGrilled/dp/B00423IVI4/ref=sr_1_1?s=clothing&ie=UTF8&qid=1318170860&sr=1-1&tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-21

I suggest you review the entire range you list from Chargrilled as there are other equally offensive items available such as:

www.amazon.co.uk/Calm-Down-Dear-Lets-Murder/dp/B005ELTKDI?tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-21
('Brown' option)

These T-shirts are trivialising massive personal violations and serious crimes.

Thank you.

STS

[SweetTheSting]

Got a reply from Amazon which looks like a fairly stock one - I will see if they do take any further action:

"Thank you for contacting Amazon.co.uk and for bringing these products listing to our attention.

There are millions of items on the Amazon.co.uk website, and we have filters in place to ensure that only items that may legally be offered for sale are offered for sale through our platform. Occasionally a particular product listing may go unnoticed by our filters and a product we do not support may then be listed on our website.

We will investigate the listing you have brought to our attention and will take appropriate action."

Sorry to go off-topic, OP, I realise the original point was about Amnesty! Any response from Amnesty yet, anyone?

[SuchProspects]

The Amazon "Calm down" T-shirt link is no longer working. So maybe that complaint has been acted on (a bit - the other one is still there).

[SweetTheSting]

Like SuchProspects I just noticed that 'Calm Down' was now down - maybe to do with 'Murder' being in the URL. Amazon haven't emailled me again yet...

[TheRealTillyMinto]

who strange - the gang rape tshirt is acceptable, the one that mentions murder isnt.

[Tortington]

Dear ,

Following your email from earlier this week we have now conducted internal checks, both here at Amnesty International UK and also at our international headquarters.

From both sides we can confirm that the company is not known to us and has no contractual relationship with Amnesty. The t shirt the website promotes is just a standard t shirt, and not an Amnesty branded one and although the website indicates that monies will be generated for Amnesty we have not received any monies from them. We totally agree with your sentiments about the tone of many of their other t shirts and do not want to be associated with them, and our legal officer has formally written to them to instruct them to remove the reference to Amnesty immediately. We will monitor to ensure this happens.

We also wanted to thank you for bringing this to our attention. We pay particular attention to Amnesty's copyright and brand and while we monitor many activities we are not always able to spot every time that our name and logo are used, so thanks for your help on this.



Best wishes,
Gordon Bennett


Supporter Care Team
Amnesty International UK
The Human Rights Action Centre
17-25 New Inn Yard
London
EC2A 3EA

Tel: 020 7033 1777
Email: [email protected]

[Tortington]

thats a real name, i didn't make it up.

[SuchProspects]

Custardo that's good to hear. Glad they've written to get their name removed.

[DontCallMeFrothyDragon]

His name really is Gordon Bennett? Gordon Bennett, I could see him getting jip over that...

[SweetTheSting]

Good to hear, HMCusty. Though I did think you were pulling our legs about GB!