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Help! I think I'm a feminist

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TeamEdward Tue 16-Aug-11 22:42:27

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giyadas Tue 16-Aug-11 22:53:42

shock
and you seemed like such a nice girl wink
grin

I found Backlash to be really good book to help me make sense of everything that was going on around me, but there have been a lot of recent ones. As I'm skint I couldn't tell you how good they were.
Oh, the equality illusion is the only recent one I've got and it must be good because my newly feminist friend keeps making excuses not to return it to me.

StewieGriffinsMom Tue 16-Aug-11 22:57:41

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FunnysInTheGarden Tue 16-Aug-11 23:00:20

you don't need to read a book to be feminist. Just be female and follow your instincts. Thats all you need to be a feminist.

FunnysInTheGarden Tue 16-Aug-11 23:01:10

incidentally every female should be feminist and shame on those who aren't

AliceTwirled Tue 16-Aug-11 23:01:31

Equality Illusion. And welcome grin

TeamEdward Tue 16-Aug-11 23:02:44

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DontCallMeFrothyDragon Tue 16-Aug-11 23:05:27

I'm currently reading Living Dolls. It's the only one I've read/am reading so far.

Assss for issues.

We still have (ready for it?)
The pay gap
Cliches and stereotypes in media (try www.femfreq.com)
A male dominated music industry
1 in 4 women suffering abuse from a partner at some point in their lives
90% of rapes and sexual assaults going unreported
Poor media attitudes to rape
Page 3 models
Sexist attitudes to female sports players
People discriminating against SAHM's
People discriminating against WOHM's
People discriminating against men working in "women's jobs"
People discriminating against women working in "men's jobs"
Women being targeted by government spending cuts
More gender specific terms used against women
A patriachal government, dominated HEAVILY by men
The porn industry still abusing women, with it being seen as acceptable
The sexualisation of young girls
Advertising playing on women's insecurities...

There isn't a word/line limit on MN yet, is there? as I'm sure I'll think of more...

giyadas Tue 16-Aug-11 23:07:17

Funny - no you don't need to read a book to be a feminist but I've found feminist writers give me the words to express what I have found difficult to put into words myself. There's no reason to 'go it alone' when there's many fantastic women who have written down their thoughts, findings and opinions just ready for you to pick up and read.

FunnysInTheGarden Tue 16-Aug-11 23:12:44

suppose I have just read many feminist writers and so its second nature to me. I was brought up on Germaine Greer and Fay Weldon etc My two sisters were very feminist as was my mum, so it's second nature.

It surprises me when any female isn't feminist by nature.

TeamEdward Tue 16-Aug-11 23:12:54

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FunnysInTheGarden Tue 16-Aug-11 23:13:48

oh and Angela Atwood. I have just finished her 100th novel!

LeninGrad Tue 16-Aug-11 23:16:13

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TeamEdward Tue 16-Aug-11 23:17:07

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TeamEdward Tue 16-Aug-11 23:18:20

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giyadas Tue 16-Aug-11 23:18:54

Funny, that might be the difference then, my mum wasn't feminist and still angles for male approval, and my sis just kinda goes along with stuff. For those that know something's up but can't quite put their finger on it, feminist books can be an oasis.

giyadas Tue 16-Aug-11 23:21:37

Ive read Germaine Greer - the female eunuch and the whole woman. It's very interesting to see how her ideas changed over time.
Love paper printed stuff though, so good for just leaving lying around to be found.

LeninGrad Tue 16-Aug-11 23:24:19

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DontCallMeFrothyDragon Tue 16-Aug-11 23:25:24

My mum has moments of feminist tendencies. She's always been a bit of a matriach, but it suprised me when I visited her last, there was something that came up about a rape on TV. She started talking about how someone who'd said the victim shouldn't have been wearing x,y and z was spouting a load of crap, a woman could walk down the street naked and it still wouldn't be "asking for it". She also went back to work in the 60's, after having DB, much to the rest of the family's horror. She still thinks mothers should be SAHM's until the youngest DC starts school though. I'm working on those kinks... wink

jennyvstheworld Tue 16-Aug-11 23:28:35

Interesting to see Fay Weldon mentioned here. She'd get a bit of a pasting on these threads...

www.independent.co.uk/news/fay-weldon-causes-rape-storm-1168537.html

TeamEdward Tue 16-Aug-11 23:32:43

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LeninGrad Tue 16-Aug-11 23:34:52

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FunnysInTheGarden Tue 16-Aug-11 23:34:56

with the benefit of hindsight, I am very lucky then to have an 83 year old mother who is feminist through and through. She would never knowingly do anything to simply please a man! (or even not knowingly) Same with my 50 something year old sisters. I am 40 and very lucky to have been properly educated!

Suffice to say I have thrived in a male dominated profession (commercial property) Must be all those 'fuck off' vibes given to me as a small child!

TeamEdward Tue 16-Aug-11 23:35:08

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FunnysInTheGarden Tue 16-Aug-11 23:36:13

I think the older FW seems to have become a bit anti fem reactionary. God knows why

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