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UsingMainlySpoons Wed 20-Jul-11 15:08:54

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TheDoctrineOfSnatch Mon 19-Nov-12 09:22:50


Talking to my aunt yesterday, who is a retired hospital pathologist, discussing her DD, a qualified doctor training to be an anesthetist. As soon as the discussion turned general, the pronoun switched to 'he' - eg "the anaesthetist is very important, he does this and that"

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Thu 08-Nov-12 19:34:39

Bbc sportswoman of the year tonight:

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Thu 08-Nov-12 18:00:08

Interesting article about the split of female/male votes in the US election:

(shame about the "pink-hued blip" phrase)

Some quotes:

A historic number of female representative were elected, including the first openly gay senator (Tammy Baldwin, Wisconsin), the first Asian-American female senator (Mazie Hirono, Hawaii) and the first female military veteran wounded in combat (Representative Tammy Duckworth, Illinois).

Massachusetts elected its first female senator, and New Hampshire will be the first state to send an all-female delegation to Congress.

Thanks to a surge of both female and minority candidates, white men will no longer constitute the majority of the Democratic House caucus.

In 1992, a similar boon for female candidates resulted in five new female senators, and ushered in something called "the year of the woman" - a label one of the women in question, Barbara Mikulski, a democratic representative from Maryland, found objectionable

"We're not a fad, a fancy, or a year," she said at the time. The label, she said, made it sound as if every other year was not a year for women.

KRITIQ Thu 01-Nov-12 10:11:57

Doctrine, that made me laugh actually. My late mum used to drive an old banger that had some kind of wiring problem which meant one of the headlights burnt out quite frequently. She carried a supply of spare lamps in the boot and just changed them when and wherever needed. My dad wouldn't have had a clue (he had many excellent qualities but DIY and care maintenance wasn't amongst them.)

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Thu 01-Nov-12 08:52:07

Fuck fuck fuckity fuck

Halfords advert on the radio, woman automatically gives job of changing headlight to husband, husband fails, woman says "ooh, my nails, I'm not doing it", woman goes to Halfords who fix it, woman comes back and taunts husband about having got a real man to do it.

Nice work, ad agency. Did you give the intern ten minutes or fifteen to think that one up?

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Wed 24-Oct-12 10:56:37

Hi msrisotto I never understand the money argument. Even apart from how horrid it is, it's illogical. If you wanted only money, surely you would blackmail with the threat of going public and not actually go public. If you go public, whilst there may be some nominal fees for newspaper interviews, they are hardly likely to be life changing.

It's not like we can't move for millionaire rape/abuse survivors, is it? Grr.

msrisotto Tue 23-Oct-12 18:28:02

DH is a great ostrich so after making a concerned 'what a wanker' type facial expression, he promptly ignored it. He might think about meeting his friend out somewhere rather than bring him home as he might guess the reception he'll get from me!

My passive aggressive thing doesn't work to full effect when I'm so disgusted by someone I can't bring myself to look at them! They get the hint! [aboutastransparentasmilk]

AbigailAdams Tue 23-Oct-12 12:01:51

Some people really show their true colours don't they over subjects like this. I don't envy you at all if he has to come round msrisotto. I find myself being very PA in those type of situations because I just want to tell them to fuck off but can't.

Not that I am recommending that as a strategy as it really doesn't work and makes you look a bit childish grin

LRDtheFeministDragon Tue 23-Oct-12 10:07:45

Oh, what a wanker.

What did your DH reckon to it? Would he be up for telling this 'friend' not to come.

I wouldn't want someone like that in your house.

msrisotto Tue 23-Oct-12 07:56:44

Hi, resurrecting this old thread as I didn't want to start a new one but wanted to rant anyway.


At least it let's you know who's a dick head. Today/yesterday, it was a friend of my husband. Saying how the people coming forward about being attacked by Jimmy Saville were after money! I said that was nasty and his friend came on to support him and also mention that the women were lying and whats the point of dragging it up now when hes not here to defend himself. I left the conversation and defriended him. I am just sickened by this disgusting white male posh boy privilege displayed here. Thank god someone is there to defend those poor vulnerable paedophiles eh?! Sick sick sick. Apparently this 'friend' is coming over this weekend too. I can't wait.

blackcurrants Sun 08-Jan-12 15:26:24

She left yesterday, and it was the hardest I've ever found it to say "Bye mum!" and put her on a train/plane. An utterly lovely visit, and DS's talking came on in leaps and bounds while she was here- she kept on asking him questions, and he kept on talking - my eyes were opened! smile

TheBossofMe Fri 06-Jan-12 08:55:50

Blakcurrants - me too, Dd loves it when "Gma" comes to stay, wish it could be more often.

Had a fun day shopping, am now filling the freezer with cooked meals ready for the inevitable slog at work in Jan. post Christmas often means late nights working, so am preparing for my nights to cook by cooking them all now.

<<wonders whether it's anti feminist to love cooking and domesticity>>

StewieGriffinsMom Thu 05-Jan-12 20:09:23

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blackcurrants Thu 05-Jan-12 16:51:43

Hello everyone. I've got my Mum visiting at the moment, having a ball playing with DS and just generally hanging out. Back to working VERY HARD on monday, but right now enjoying some wisdom from the mother unit and enjoying a break from singing "Twinkle, twinkle, little star" on a constant loop, as she is having such a good time teaching him all the actions...

They're MAD about each other! Times like this, I wish I lived closer to her. Well, closer than 3,300 miles apart, anyway!

BertieBotts Wed 04-Jan-12 22:52:31

I'm fine smile thanks for asking. Wouldn't have gone straight to bed after that though. I want to say something pointed on the OBEM thread to all the defenders but couldn't think of anything which wasn't going to immediately ring the "bitter manhater" alarm. Oh well. I'm going to bed in a minute anyway as it's DS's second nursery day tomorrow. He did fantastically today and I'm hoping to be able to slip away at some point tomorrow.

AlwaysWild Wed 04-Jan-12 22:45:13

Sorry Bertie. Mamma Mia xpost. Hope you're ok

AlwaysWild Wed 04-Jan-12 22:39:22

Oh she's come round to my way of thinking now grin

BertieBotts Wed 04-Jan-12 22:38:39

Hmm maybe not so distanced. Stomach still in knots from the anger display. Just imagining her having to witness that when the baby won't sleep or he's stressed from work and she's "doing nothing all day" or the money runs out or she still doesn't feel like sex after X amount of months.

And SHE apologised to him for messing up the birth and stressing him out. angry I know, automatic mother guilt, and editing, but somehow I doubt he apologised at all and she had nothing to apologise for.

AlwaysWild Wed 04-Jan-12 22:35:11

I've remembered what I wanted to rant about the other day. Graham norton show highlights. Really noticeable that the vast vast majority of speaking was from the male guests. Women were ornament or the butt of sexual innuendo

AlwaysWild Wed 04-Jan-12 22:31:23

Has some nice songs in though grin

Was rather pleased they switched the sexes on the rather disturbing 'does your mother know'

BertieBotts Wed 04-Jan-12 22:30:08

I found that last series TBBE, it upset me too much. Can be a bit more distanced now but still. <shudder>

StewieGriffinsMom Wed 04-Jan-12 22:23:26

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TheBrandyButterflyEffect Wed 04-Jan-12 22:22:59

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AlwaysWild Wed 04-Jan-12 22:17:05

I'm watching mama Mia at the moment. Not seen it before do might change yet. But why the fuck does she want her father she has never met to 'give her away' rather than her mother who's supported her for 20 years?! confused

And I don't think it's passed bechdel yet. One hour 15 in hmm

BertieBotts Wed 04-Jan-12 22:14:58

Wow, One Born Every Minute was depressing tonight. Did anyone watch? First all the midwives kept going on about how it's scary for Dads-to-be to come into the labour ward because they've never been there before, it smells of hospitals, and there are women screaming. HOW is that more scary for the Dad?! Oh and the gem that men are usually slightly more in control in a relationship so they find labour unsettling because they can't control it.

And then the man who punched a wall because his baby had to go into special care hmm the comments on the main OBEM thread defending him are beyond belief.

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