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Another stark warning

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Thistledew Thu 07-Jul-11 10:02:06

as to how the policies of the Coalition Govt will have a disproportionately negative affect on women's rights in the UK.

This government is making a big deal of flaunting its 'migration cap' and at the same time effectively withdrawing the right to legal representation for many migrants, by withdrawing legal aid.

This report, although based on research carried out in Belgium, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Poland, Spain and Sweden, illustrates how these policies will harm the rights of women living in the UK.

"There is evidence that care needs are likely to increase in the future. According to Eurostat estimates, the proportion of the population aged 80 years or over in the EU 27 will triple from 4.66% in 2008 to 12.12% in 2060.25 Even more relevant, the old-age- dependency ratio26 will increase, which means there will be fewer young people to look after the growing elderly population."

"Migrant domestic workers make an important social and economic contribution to European households and societies, and are likely to do so even more in future. Insufficient legal avenues to address actual labour demand can contribute to an increase in irregular work by migrants. In addition, when work permits are tied to employers and/or to the work
sector, workers may fall back into an irregular status through no fault of their own. Women may lose residence rights as a result of divorce and become
irregular. In other cases, employers may not fulfil certain requirements needed to extend the residence permit."

"Migrant domestic workers are vulnerable to discrimination on several grounds. They are mainly women and thus specifically vulnerable to gender-
based forms of discrimination and violence. They are migrants and thus exposed to racial discrimination. In addition, they work in one of the few sectors with limited labour law standards. The fact that most domestic workers are female migrants performing informal, poorly paid and unprotected work is a clear example of multiple discrimination."

"In the light of the particular vulnerability of domestic workers to labour exploitation and violations of their rights at work, the question of access to legal redress and protection is crucial. The existence of effective remedies depends not only on the accessibility of institutional justice systems to migrants in an irregular situation, but on the support that civil society actors provide. Adequate remedies should also include compensation, especially for victims of forced labour, with a view to avoid subjecting victims to new violations."

"The absence of legal assistance can constitute a major obstacle to the enjoyment and exercise of irregular domestic workers’ rights, particularly if they do not possess the means to pay a lawyer. Aside from Article 47 of the Charter, one can also refer to the relevant ECtHR case law, in accordance with which provision should be made for legal aid where the absence of such aid would make it impossible to ensure an effective remedy."

Thistledew Thu 07-Jul-11 19:49:01

FFS. I always seem to manage to post stuff that no-one else is interested in. hmm

sunshineandbooks Thu 07-Jul-11 20:00:27

I didn't see this earlier.

It is concerning I agree. I am very very against the removal of legal aid from so many people, though I admit I hadn't thought about it from this angle at all. I have signed a petition and emailed my MP about it.

Women always bear the brunt in recession don't they. Always. It's so utterly utterly depressing and because we're talking about migrants I bet a large part of the country won't give a shit. sad

Thistledew Thu 07-Jul-11 20:15:20

Thanks sunshine.

I have posted a few things about migrants in this section and received very few replies. Personally, I think that anyone who calls herself a feminist should be interested in the rights of all women, especially those in her own country, regardless of how they came to be here.

Migrant women are the most vulnerable of the most vulnerable. How they fare is a barometer of how all women are faring. We ignore their plight at our peril.

sunshineandbooks Thu 07-Jul-11 20:26:51

I completely agree. I wonder if it's because there's a tendency to assume that if they're EU citizens they shouldn't be any more vulnerable than UK women. We forget that you don't have to be as far away as the Congo or Saudi to suffer extreme discrimination and hardship.

falasportugues Fri 08-Jul-11 23:21:28

I care too. Thank you for posting about this issue.

blackcurrants Fri 08-Jul-11 23:33:07

thistledew I care and I'm reading your posts and your links. I don't have heaps to add, because I don't have heaps of time to post (can read but not post - toddler, etc). But I think I'm probably not the only lurker who's noticing what you're posting.

Catitainahatita Sat 09-Jul-11 18:10:49

Didn't see this yesterday (perhaps a title that mentioned migrant women might have caught my eye more?)

Of course you are right to be concerned and expect this to be important in the feminist community. Migrant women, especially those who end work as in other peoples' home are very vunerable. When this is taken to extremes you have cases like those recently come to light in Saudi Arabia. Sadly, it is common everywhere. See this story I read this morning

I don't tend to have much an opinion on the actual topic of the cuts because I don't live in the UK and although I understand the basis premise; I am very hazy ont he details.

somethingwitty82 Sun 10-Jul-11 18:35:04

Are you having a fucking giraffe? Legal aid for tax dodging criminals? No thanks.

sunshineandbooks Sun 10-Jul-11 18:55:26

tax-dodging criminals?

somethingwitty82 Sun 10-Jul-11 18:56:33

individuals breaking the law and failing to pay taxes

sunshineandbooks Sun 10-Jul-11 19:03:29

You aware of the difference between asylum seeker, migrant worker and illegal immigrant, are you?

If so, your anger is misplaced. Save it for the 'employers' of these women. They are the ones who are breaking the law by paying below minimum wage and failing to pay tax and national insurance, not to mention the exploitation.

somethingwitty82 Sun 10-Jul-11 19:14:52

" Some have a right to stay in the host
country but do not have the right to work, whereas
others have no right to stay. This report focuses
of the latter group of people: migrants in an
irregular situation employed in the dom"

illegal immigrants then

Self employed staff are responsible for paying their own tax and NI

This is beyond absurd. a minimum wage,holidays, maternity pay, for illegal immigrants! the right to stay! its af ucking free for all.

there are 500 000 000 in the EU and will bemore soon, the 1995 Barcelona agreemnt will add , algeria, egypt, libya, palestine, syria,lebaonon

Unemployment is rife, how fucking stupid can people be. Do they pay more in that they take out> NO . end of , there is no shortage of labour, i am not prepared to pay more fucking taxes and higher prices for leccy,gas, petrol and food so some rich caaaaw can have a fucking live in slave.shove it behind the couch like the rest of us love

sunshineandbooks Sun 10-Jul-11 20:47:21

I started to type out a reply but deleted it on the basis that what I need to say to refute your diatribe is already in the original article. I therefore conclude that you are either haven't read it properly or that you are so wedded to your hatred of 'immigrants' that you do not actually want to enter into a reasoned debate.

If you wish to offer an informed, considered response as to why you think this isn't a problem, great. I'll debate it with you. But I have better things to do than waste my sunday evening talking to someone spouting angry hate speech.

Have a brew and biscuit to reduce your blood pressure. Life must be hard for you judging by the amount of aggression you're displaying.

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