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AIBU to think that if you email a pic of your genitals to a child, then you are indeed a "sick paedo"?

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MmeLindor. Tue 28-Jun-11 15:31:49

I am shocked that the Times journalist Graham Spiers's posts on Twitter.

GrahamSpiers Graham Spiers
Everyone condemns what Craig Thomson has done. But he is no ‘sick paedo’ and the rest of it. This is what the internet does to kids today.
3 hours ago Favorite Undo Retweet Reply

GrahamSpiers Graham Spiers
I feel sorry for Hearts’ Craig Thomson, as deplorable as his actions have been. This kid, in the internet age, took a dire wrong turning.
3 hours ago

He later said that he is not defending the Hearts player, who has been put on the sex offenders register for emailing young girls story here

From that article it is clear that the footballer was grooming the girls, that he knew for sure how old they were. How can anyone say that he "took a wrong turn".

Alibabaandthe80nappies Tue 28-Jun-11 15:34:05

This whole situation is horrific, and IMO just emphasises what a ridiculous pedestal footballers are put on. It is like they are somehow above normal rules.

Vile, vile man. Anyone else would be being sacked from his job and torn to shreds by the press.

DooinMeCleanin Tue 28-Jun-11 15:34:36

He took a wrong turn? Like he meant to send them to an adult? No, I didn't think so.


MmeLindor. Tue 28-Jun-11 15:36:50

Here is the Twitter feed

Pagwatch Tue 28-Jun-11 15:37:25

It is interesting that he does not seem to contemplate this offence as part of a grooming process.

Does he really think that had he got away with it, Craig Thomson would have thought ' oh excellent, flashed my genitals, got this child to do a few things for me but I really ought to stop now'

Society is shockingly, staggeringly uneducated about pedophiles and grooming and abuse.

The teacher that was abusing children in his classroom was discussed on here and someone posted ' how did the teacher manage to scare all those children into keeping quiet'. Breathtaking.

TheRealMBJ Tue 28-Jun-11 15:38:05


It's disgusting. Even more disgusting that anyone could feel sorry for him.

MmeLindor. Tue 28-Jun-11 15:41:20

It is scary, Pag.

He seems to have no understanding of the way in which paedophiles work (which as a sports journalist he doesn't really need, but then he should keep his trap shut and not publicly announce his sympathy for the man).

And is there any worse thing to do, as a public figure, than to come out in sympathy with a paedophile?

Perhaps it is linked to the peeeeedo fear that is so prevalent in UK, so that we are too willing to accept "misunderstandings" from normal decent men who made "mistakes" while we shout peeeedo at strange looking guys who happen to be slightly odd looking.

WeDONTneedanotherhero Tue 28-Jun-11 15:41:34

I find it abhorent that the club did not sack him on the spot. I am also gob smacke tht anyone can even attempt to justify his actions. As far as I can see he preyed on those girls. No 20 year old would have those conversations with girls that age so in my mind it much more than a "wrong turn", it's paedophilia.

OnlyWantsOne Tue 28-Jun-11 15:41:45



TheRealMBJ Tue 28-Jun-11 15:42:24

Thanks for the link Mme

WeDONTneedanotherhero Tue 28-Jun-11 15:42:58

x post

DooinMeCleanin Tue 28-Jun-11 15:44:07

Ah so it is the internet's fault. Nasty, evil interweb forcing men to act abhorrently hmm

HandDivedScallopsrgreat Tue 28-Jun-11 15:44:19

I doubt he would be excusing this behaviour if a woman had sent the photos to a child. It is only because he is a male footballer that it even crosses Spiers's mind that this might be acceptable.

MmeLindor. Tue 28-Jun-11 15:45:52

Yes, Dooin

I fancy a bit of fraud. I will do it over the internet, as you know the internet tempted me to do so. It is what the internet does to kids today.

dittany Tue 28-Jun-11 16:35:47

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

MmeLindor. Tue 28-Jun-11 16:37:06

I read it several times before believing what I was reading.

wrongdecade Tue 28-Jun-11 16:38:42

how did the child take a 'wrong turn'?

mollymole Tue 28-Jun-11 16:48:16

he is certainly gross - perhaps they could chop them off so that there can be no more 'accidents' (grin)

mollymole Tue 28-Jun-11 16:48:39

oops see above - can't make these little pics work !!!

floyjoy Tue 28-Jun-11 16:55:20

What's even more shocking is that the club was supporting Thomson yesterday and have only suspended him today because of objections from sponsors-
From BBC News
*The club's initial backing of Thomson was widely criticised.

The official supporters' club of the Scottish Premier League outfit, charity Children's 1st and Scottish lawmakers were among those calling for Hearts to take action against the player.

And Hearts' water sponsor cancelled its contract with the club on Monday.*

He hasn't yet been kicked out!

It's amazing what is deemed acceptable, an error of judgement, etc. when it involves a man exploiting/abusing teenage girls. The ability to kick a ball about a pitch also helps when establishing the man's innocence.

Graham Spiers in an arsehole generally but given that he has spent his career as a football journalist it's not very surprising that he would hold those views. I guess he is so used to that male consensus, 'it's only a bit if fun/it's so hard to tell their ages these days' view that he forgot that a lot us don't have such a benevolent attitude towards sexual predators that target children and teenagers. Better to know the full extent of his stupidity and aresholeness.

AnyFucker Tue 28-Jun-11 16:55:47

molly, you need to use [ ] not ( )

mollymole Tue 28-Jun-11 16:58:13

thanks anyfucker

AnyFucker Tue 28-Jun-11 16:59:58

come on then, do it molly smile

sobloodystupid Tue 28-Jun-11 17:07:46

Urgh! How repellent are both Spiers and Thomson, cannot believe my eyes...

MmeLindor. Tue 28-Jun-11 17:44:37

I hadn't come across the journalist before, but I agree that male sports journos tend to be on the neanderthal side of the scale.

His insistence that he is not defending Thomson is baffling.

I did have a tweeter (a good guy) say, "Not read the details of the case, but maybe he didn't know their real ages". As soon as I pointed out that he had known one of the girls for years, he apologised.

And what 20yo would not recognise a 12 year old as being underage?

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