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Glamour Models/Fashion Models

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HaughtyChuckle Wed 08-Jun-11 16:22:35

sort of inspired by a another comment

why is the objectification of one group treated as more preferable than the other?

I'm interested in other views

StewieGriffinsMom Wed 08-Jun-11 19:19:18

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HaughtyChuckle Thu 09-Jun-11 10:00:31

its idiotic tyo me too e.g. models are basically expected to starve themselves until they look like teenage boys and are then promoted as sexy.

I'm some ways its more distorted because 'glamour models' look like they eat and have a womans figure, and sexual abuse goes on in both.

TheSmallClanger Thu 09-Jun-11 15:16:45

Fashion models are not supposed to be sexy. They are supposed to not look like normal people, and they are supposed to look good in whatever clothes they need to. While I can see some very obvious problems with the fashion modelling industry, I do think that the models themselves are scapegoated unfairly for various things.

The average teen is more likely to be aware of glamour models and other media celebrities than most working fashion models. They are much more part of this nasty obsession our media has with being famous for the sake of it, and with the constant building-up and knocking-down of peripheral female celebrities.

dittany Thu 09-Jun-11 15:39:37

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HaughtyChuckle Thu 09-Jun-11 15:56:43

They are supposed to not look like normal people

I'd disagree with that TSC most of them are encourtaged to be very underweight

TheSmallClanger Thu 09-Jun-11 16:27:46

That's part of it - they are meant to look different and Not Like You And I. In a time when most people are not rail-thin and have no hope of being so, being very thin is how you project a different, other-worldly image.

If something drastic happened and the population of the Western fashion-buying world became very thin, you can bet that fashion and the rest of pop culture would start presenting fatter people as interesting fashion images.

StewieGriffinsMom Thu 09-Jun-11 16:38:52

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TheSmallClanger Thu 09-Jun-11 16:49:52

That is true SGM. The whole "supermodel" thing in the 80s was bigger than just fashion. They became brands of their own, and "supermodel" was a separate category to just "model".

I think things have gone back to how they used to be. If you look at 50s and 60s fashion plates, the models have always been slim. Catwalk modelling used to be a specialist area and not as high-profile as photographic studio modelling - Twiggy did few or no catwalk shows. Likewise, only diehard fashion devotees can name all of the models in a catwalk show these days, and the models we recognise are the ones from the ads, or increasingly, glamour models and media celebs trying to pass themselves off as fashion models.

snowmama Thu 09-Jun-11 16:53:13

Sadly conversations with men I know suggest that
fashioned models still get 'wanked over'.

I think it is just the old madonna/whore dichtotomy (sp?)

Fashion models are etheral, other worldy and inaccessible,
glamour models are more 'normal' looking, accessible and

...either way both types contribute to women feeling shit
about themselves.

MarshaBrady Thu 09-Jun-11 16:53:39

There is a documentary with Erin O'connor and she remarks that being a model helped her feel beautiful. She looked so different to every one else but was then adored.

Of course not everyone has such a good time. And extreme dieting for a model's figure when you don't naturally have one is a bad way to go..

But for those that are naturally very thin and tall I can see it might sometimes work to increase self-esteem.

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