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The Economist explanation to lower salaries for women

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camaleon Tue 07-Jun-11 10:09:21

It is our fault! (I bet you are surprised). We do not have ambitions apparently...
Here it goes. Enjoy (?)
http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2011/06/graduate-salary-expectations

MrIC Tue 07-Jun-11 12:42:31

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/aug/21/gender.pay?INTCMP=SRCH - and here's why women expect less - because they know they won't get hired otherwise.

That's an interesting chart Camaleon - I like the way that graduates in Switzerland expect to get more than the natural average - talk about sense of entitlement

I love/hate the Economist.

I love the fact that they give in depth coverage of areas of the world most other newspapers hardly acknowledge.

I hate their smug, entitled, lecturing tone that doesn't so much suggest "solutions" to the world's problems as imply that if the Economist's own vision isn't followed verbatim then we're all going to hell in a handbasket.

LieInsAreRarerThanTigers Tue 07-Jun-11 12:58:53

A very interesting chart. Didn't realise there was so much variation in average salary between the different countries, also a lot of variation in men's/women's expectations throughout Europe, and not always what I would have thought.

Take Ireland, average wage 25% higher than Britain, same for men and women, even though women's expectations are lower. Similar scenario in Italy but with a lower average, so it can't all be about women getting what they expect!

camaleon Wed 08-Jun-11 10:15:55

Thanks for that link to the guardian. The chart is indeed very interesting. The differences in salaries in Nordic countries are amazing too. It kills some stereotypes about countries too.

SuchProspects Wed 08-Jun-11 20:46:15

LieIns If you read the small print you'll see that the average salary stats for Ireland, Italy, Russia and Poland are the same because no sex differentiated data was available.

LieInsAreRarerThanTigers Wed 08-Jun-11 22:51:16

Doh! No time for small print. Next! blush

camaleon Wed 08-Jun-11 23:42:38

Thank you suchprospects... the problem with small print. At least this will impact equally women and men... (or not?)

SuchProspects Thu 09-Jun-11 08:39:10

One of the things I find interesting about the Economist article is the way the blurb at the top talks about the comparisons between men and women and gives breakdowns for the things where they are talking about what men want, but when they talk about the factors that women want more (companies with strong corporate responsibility) they don't provide a breakdown, they go straight into another factor that men want more. It's typical of how business takes men's concerns more seriously than women's.

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