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thefinerthingsinlife Tue 11-Jan-11 16:46:48

"Page 3: a daily reminder of our status in society and what women exist for. To be ogled, scrutinised, mocked, put down, humiliated, harassed, beaten and killed. Every day we hear of heinous (sexual) crimes and injustices against women but every day Page 3 remains a celebrated iconic image in our culture. Is this some sort of joke? No, it's just patriarchy"

I've just seen this and thought it summed it up rather well

Frans1980 Mon 01-Oct-12 11:45:54

I have no issue with page 3, and I have no prob either with women breastfeeding or women walking topless at a beach (because I'm not prudish in the slightest). We were born naked anyway.


All current page 3 models are 18+ years of age (used to be 16+ but that changed). Do you think 18 is still too young to pose topless and the age should be increased again? IMO 18 is an adult age and not a child.

All the page 3 models I have seen are slim yes but a healthy slim. I don't think I've seen any anorexic or overweight models on page 3- and I don't think showing models of an unhealthy weight is a good idea. So what's the issue here?

As for half-naked if a man was shown with no top on then noone would be shocked and noone would complain. So why is it ok for a man to take his top off but a woman can't?

StewieGriffinsMom Mon 01-Oct-12 11:49:33

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Frans1980 Mon 01-Oct-12 11:52:19

I agree with WidowWadman, regardless of whether you love or hate things like porn or prostitution banning them with laws isn't the right step IMO. If you want someone to stop doing something then passing a law is probably the worst thing you can do- it makes something into a forbidden fruit and more desirable and people will want it even more. A lot of people like feeling "naughty" when they do something they aren't supposed to be doing.

For example sex outdoors is a major taboo in the UK but that's exactly why a lot of couples do it because it is taboo and they get extra adrenaline from the fact they know they are doing wrong.

If we were more 'european' in our thinking, and women could walk along beaches here with their tits out without fear of being whistled at by teenage boys or ogled by men

Exactly. Men in Europe see plenty of bare boobs so why aren't feminists there demanding women on beaches cover up? Where is the evidence women topless at the beach contributes to domestic violence? (I saw a news article couple days ago that claimed page 3 "caused domestic violence"- sorry but I find that too hard to believe).

Frans1980 Mon 01-Oct-12 11:53:55

Why are there no page 3 equivalents for men?

Porn magazines/websites/male strippers/sex workers for women/gay men do exist.

Frans1980 Mon 01-Oct-12 11:56:08

Its acceptable for 50 year old men to wank off at 18 year olds

A 50 year old man could legally walk off with a 16 year old because 16 is the legal age. I'm not sure I get your point do you want to increase the legal age of consent? Or is it just a moral thing you don't like seeing young women with older men?

OneMoreChap Mon 01-Oct-12 12:25:19

Frans1980 I defer to your expertise on Page 3; it's many years since I read a red-top.

Basically, I dislike Page 3 because it objectifies women and highlights them as object for lust rather than "artisitic appreciation".

I'd frankly be amazed if models were bell curve central on size distribution...

FWIW, I detest adverts that portray men as unable to cook or clean either...

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