Vaginal dilation

(21 Posts)
florenceswashingmachine Thu 05-Jul-18 01:04:35

Hate asking this but online the easiest way - don't want to ask friends if they have experience.

Cba name changing either.

I got given a pack of vaginal trainers from gynae yesterday to use for 20 min a night , possibly up to 6 months at a time.

They're solid plastic, very cold and just uncomfortable. I've managed stage 2 with less pain and muscle spasm (about index finger) but stage 3 was so sore - deep severe pain that took my breath away. I'm supposed to hold them in and rotate for twenty mins or so, try to relax and overcome pain. Not possible.

Having counselling at same time and they suggested trying to be 'sexually aroused' at same time so to associate with positive feelings but given it feels like I'm being punched with a 3lb hammer in the pelvis , trying to get in the mood wouldn't work.

I've got a review in 6 weeks but don't want to go back and say I gave up. I'm not sure if there's anything else I could do to make it easier. I've got lube from NHS , wait til bed etc, but wishing there was an easier way of sorting it.

(Vibrator isn't possible due to shared house unfortunately, or I'd try to use that instead.)

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ChiefClerkDrumknott Thu 05-Jul-18 01:06:53

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MrMeSeeks Thu 05-Jul-18 01:21:04

ChiefClerkDrumknott didnt think to as this poster first before claiming they're a gf? hmm
Maybe you’d have seen theyre having health problems.

timeisnotaline Thu 05-Jul-18 01:25:34

Wouldn’t you stick with stage 2 for a week or so and try stage 3 again when that gets easier? Better to progress more slowly than not at all?

Monty27 Thu 05-Jul-18 01:27:14

Go the whole hog

ChiefClerkDrumknott Thu 05-Jul-18 01:28:07

Maybe you’d have seen theyre having health problems.

Nope. Why would you ask a board of mostly females with actual vaginas how to dilate a surgically created ‘neo-vagina’? How the fuck would we know how to look after a surgical wound that doesn’t even begin to resemble the real thing?

GorgonLondon Thu 05-Jul-18 01:41:57

Op is not looking for 'wank fodder' nor talking about a 'surgivally created neo vagina'.

She has described her medical conditions in great detail in other threads.

I was born with a disorder (congenital) affecting my urinary system (bladder and urethra mainly) and reproductive tract. I'm not intersex, have a womb, ovaries and nothing else that shouldn't be there (had an MRI)

I took 2 minutes to advance search and find this out before attacking and reporting her, could you not have done the same?

MrMeSeeks Thu 05-Jul-18 01:44:53

You do realise women use dilators?
If theyve had surgery, vaginismus
, problems when They were born to name a few...
Maybe you should know something before you jump on op, especially when she’s a woman with a vagina!

ChiefClerkDrumknott Thu 05-Jul-18 01:44:56

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MrMeSeeks Thu 05-Jul-18 01:46:05

Not really, why would I go looking for other threads when they could have so easily been linked for background? OP really does read like so much wank fodder...
You know very little and are really offensive.

ChiefClerkDrumknott Thu 05-Jul-18 01:47:47

If the OP is female and has a history I apologise, but I’ve read a few too many threads here where this is not the case. Perhaps I’m too on alert for bullshit threads atm

ChiefClerkDrumknott Thu 05-Jul-18 01:49:02

You know very little and are really offensive
I know too much and am offensive tbf, perhaps in this case I’m wrong

GorgonLondon Thu 05-Jul-18 07:37:36

No, you know too little and you have falsely accused the op and derailed her thread.

It reads NOTHING like pervy troll threads.

perhaps in this case I’m wrong

There is no 'perhaps' about it. You are hugely wrong and out of order and don't even have the decency to apologize properly.

Op, sorry I can't offer you any helpful advice flowers

AnnaMagnani Thu 05-Jul-18 07:50:19

ChiefClerk loads of women use dilators - those with vaginismus, those who have had cancer and as a brief search has shown those with other medical disorders.

Sorry OP, they are not nice to use. If you have got to stage 3 already you are making great progress - maybe stick with stage 2 until it is not painful at all and then step up. Don't feel pressurized to have done the lot in 6 weeks.

MiriAmmerman Thu 05-Jul-18 08:10:09

ChiefClerkDrumknott your posts are incredibly offensive. I am a "natural woman" with a "natural vagina". However, I have also had very "natural" uterine cancer. This has involved a hysterectomy, removal of my ovaries, tubes, and cervix. I have also had chemotherapy, pelvic radiotherapy, and about 1/4 of my right lung removed due to the disease spreading. One of the most unpleasant side effects of my pelvic radiotherapy is vaginal stenosis (tightening and closure), made worse by the dryness and atrophy that comes with my surgical menopause. I have a set of dilators prescribed to help the issue. Maybe in the future you should think more carefully before calling people trolls or GFs. I hope you and your natural vagina never have to experience any of the problems that women such as me and the OP have had.

OP apologies for the above rant, and I'm sorry your thread was temporarily derailed by ignorance. First of all, thanks for you - you aren't alone. Tbh, you're doing better than me. I've had my dilators since February, and am still on the first one blush I'm waiting for it to stop hurting before I move on. I don't have any advice for you because I don't know any more than you, but it really does sound like you're doing well. They're horrible.

timeisnotaline Thu 05-Jul-18 12:31:41

Bog standard woman here, no unusual disorders , have used dilators to recover function post baby repair. Along with many other women.... agree with those who say you don’t know much chiefclark

InfiniteSheldon Thu 05-Jul-18 12:35:47

OP has chosen to post with no background in the current posting climate it really does read as goady

GorgonLondon Thu 05-Jul-18 13:39:27

Noinfinite it reads like someone who's going through a horrible time and anyone with a scrap of decency would take a moment to check their other posts before repeatedly calling them a liar and pervert.

Well done chiefclark you've horribly insulted a suffering woman and driven her off her own support thread.

florenceswashingmachine Fri 06-Jul-18 16:07:51

Yeah, I'm definitely not transgender. I 'just' have a pelvic floor dysfunction disorder and vaginismus after years of trauma and health issues. I'm so sorry this has lead to debate and upset others :-( flowers . I hadn't even thought about transwomen needing to use them after surgery. God help them if they get those plastic things , its sore for me and its the vagina I was born with, can't imagine trying to stretch a surgical wound... its just to try and make peeing a bit easier for me and relax muscles!!

I'll persist at the moment, I've got Instillagel but not sure if you can use that for this. Packet warns about systemic toxicity etc.

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InfiniteSheldon Fri 06-Jul-18 17:40:53

I had severe problems after my first childbirth and a bad tear/stitches it's awful to go through and some of the doctor's showed so little understanding of the psychological as well as physical trauma I/we went through. We went privately in the end and paid for a second consultation it put my mind at rest that the program of painkillers/dilation was my best option. flowers

DickTERFin Fri 06-Jul-18 17:46:02

Could you warm it up first by soaking in hot water, so at least your not getting to shock of the cold plastic?

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