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Has anyone read "The Aftermath of Feminism"?

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Habbibu · 28/01/2009 20:00

It's by Angela McRobbie - I've read a couple of reviews, and her letter in this week's THE, and think I might like to read it. Anyone tried it?

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margobambino · 28/01/2009 22:58

I haven't read but I might like to read it too. How was the revıews? What were they saying?

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Habbibu · 29/01/2009 18:50

Sorry, margo, didn't realise anyone had responded! Here is one review - and thisis the THE one, with McRobbie's response here

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Libra · 29/01/2009 18:52

I've got it and have read a few chapters to help with lectures.

I think I am going to recommend it to various students who are struggling with definitions of post-feminism.

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Habbibu · 29/01/2009 18:53

Do you think I'll need to have read a fair amount of other feminist theory texts to make sense of it?

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Libra · 29/01/2009 18:56

No I don't think so. I wouldn't say it was an Easy read, but I think that it was a readable introduction.

From what I have seen so far she uses quite a lot of very up-to-date examples. For instance, the bit I have read talks about make-over shows and references Gok and Ten Years Younger, etc.

If you are looking for a readable introduction in the area (sort of), I always recommend Rosalind Gill's Gender and the Media.

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Habbibu · 29/01/2009 18:59

Thanks, Libra - that's really helpful.

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Boco · 29/01/2009 19:17

She was one of my tutors at university!

But not read it, so that information not very helpful.

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Habbibu · 29/01/2009 19:23

It is a bit, Boco - did you think she was good?

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madlentileater · 29/01/2009 19:26

Not read any of this modern stuff but I did used to have a postcard which said-
I'll be a post-feminist in post-patriarchy'
which about sums up where I'm coming from.

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Habbibu · 29/01/2009 19:28

I think - and I could be wrong - that that's McRobbie's stance too, madlentil. That's why the THE letter got me interested.

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themildmanneredjanitor · 29/01/2009 19:30

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Boco · 29/01/2009 19:32

I did at the time Hab, yes, was doing essays on feminism and fashion and consumption - I've got her book 'in the culture society'. And remember reading something a while ago she'd written about new motherhood and feminism which was interesting.

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Habbibu · 29/01/2009 19:32

Here's what she says:

While I am genuinely grateful for the attention paid to my book The Aftermath of Feminism (Books, 18 December), I am distressed and perplexed by the way in which I am portrayed as presenting a completely opposite argument to that which is actually developed in the text. This happens throughout the review.

As a sociologist, I would never suggest that women nowadays "have it all". In the book I dissect the ways in which young women become the focus of new gender-specific forms of power and social control that manage the lives of women by deploying a language of choice, empowerment and freedom.

This new language of femininity serves as a replacement for feminism. Where the reviewer has written that I draw on the work of Sylvia Walby to suggest that feminism has matured and mellowed, again quite the opposite is the case. I actually challenge Walby's account, proposing provocatively that she embodies the new Labour ideal of feminism as passe, no longer needed and out of date. I feel the need to state my case here.

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onebatmother · 29/01/2009 19:37

In a rush but it sounds v interesting. Astonishing THE review - it makes the book sound precisely the opposite of the first review you link to - glad to see that Robbie responded.

It rather sounds as though she's been lurking on MN, doesn't it?

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Habbibu · 29/01/2009 19:41

It does make you wonder how the reviewer got it quite so wrong. I'd like to read something that gives me a more cogent argument against the "lap dancing is fine as I choose to do it" line (heard on woman's hour recently) than my response of just wanting to punch and/or cry. Any ideas?

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scifinerd · 29/01/2009 19:48

I'd like to read that stuuf about new motherhood and feminism, where could I find it?

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Boco · 29/01/2009 19:53

She wrote an article in the guardian, i think about young mohters, hang on..

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/mar/02/gender.comment

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madlentileater · 29/01/2009 19:56

Oh yes, I had a couple of those, MMJ!

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dittany · 29/01/2009 20:00

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scifinerd · 29/01/2009 20:02

really interesting, thank you for that link

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