GRRM (GoT) & Robin Hobb

[SparklyFairyDust]

I was one of those half wits who screamed at the TV in S2 as I'd managed to read all the books, the last 2 seemed to go on forever. I saw an episode from the latest series, they've totally deviated from the books.

Do you agree with me GRRM has no motivation to release Winds of Winter and A Sign of Spring, since the TV show seems to be covering it all.

Like if you've read the books you'll know it's not Jorah who starts with the Grey Scale, it's Tyrion's companion Penny. In the books I was routing for them. By the end of the last book Sansa was descending from the Eerie, but she's not there now at all I don't think.

It is frustrating they've used artistic licence to get away with not following the book plots.

I'm seriously wondering if I should just bite the bulletin and watch the TV series giving up all hope for the books.

I wanted to ask were there any Robin Hobb fans as his books sound really good. The one I have is the start of the Ships collection.

[29Palms]

I mostly like the way the TV adaptation has streamlined the story. I thought GRRM seemed to have rather lost his way with the last two books. He really does seem to have missed the boat with Winds Of Winter.

Having read about a third of book 4 (Feast For Crows), I happened upon a website where someone had combined the last two books by interleaving the chapters so it read in chronological order. It was soooo much better! I suspect that if GRRM could go back, that's what he would have done, and it wouldn't surprise me if in the future, there might be an official edition along the same lines.

I haven't read any Robin Hobb, so sorry, can't help there.

[SparklyFairyDust]

I really struggled with the last few books, when it was fast paced it worked really well, but there is a lot of detail in the last books, so the way you described sounds a lot more beneficial.

[29Palms]

You can download it here
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There's another version on a website called boiled leather, there are only slight variations I think. I had already bought the books so no guilt attached!

[TotallyFkingClueless]

I haven't read GoT. I've just started the Farseer Trilogy and so far I'm enjoying it but I'm not very far into the first book. Also Robin Hobb is a woman.

[cdtaylornats]

Martin has form for working like a snail in treacle going uphill on Jupiter.

I've spent every year since 1987 waiting for the next Wild Card novel.

[CormorantDevouringTime]

Robin Hobb is indeed a lady. I've met her and she's lovely, but still haven't read any of her books . I've got Assassin's Apprentice on my shelf waiting for a gap.

[Redredredrose]

Robin Hobb is great. You can read the Liveships Trilogy without reading the Assassin's Apprentice Trilogy, but I think it helps to read AA first, as a character from the first trilogy pops up in Liveships. Tawny Man Trilogy is also great, Rainwild Chronicles less good, then the last book of the last trilogy, Assassin and Fool Trilogy, is just out. TBH I'm not loving it as much as her earlier work but it's still pretty good.

[QuentinSummers]

Robin Hobb is the best. Really you should read Assassin first or you miss a suckered punch to the gut in Liveships. They are amazing books though.
I think the books and the TV of GoT will have different endings. actually I think GRRM will die before he finishes

[TheCrowFromBelow]

I've just finished the Liveships trilogy and found it dragged a bit in parts but was generally good, the Assassin trilogy was great.
I also reread Pawn of Prophecy (David Eddings) and was pleasantly surprised so I might revisit those.
I have only read GoT- gave up on the TV series as it got too overblown for me. I hope GRRM does conclude it.

[Redredredrose]

Liveships is probably my favourite. It's not a bad place to start. But like GRRM, she can be pretty mean to her characters.

[AmeliaPeabody]

Farseer Trilogy is probably the best place to start with Robin Hobb. The Liveship Trader books tie in, so are well worth reading, though I didn't find them as strong. Avoid the Soldier Son trilogy.

[PomBearWithAnOFRS]

Try the "Windsingers" books - they were co-written by GRRM and RH (as Meghan Lindholm) :D