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Sunne in Splendour - Come Enthuse With Me!

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BigBoPeep Mon 26-Nov-12 17:57:35

Just finished reading this and now feel desperately sad for poor old Richard III! Also amazed at some of the historical facts (the twin suns during Edward's ascendancy, and the eclipse on Richard's wife's death!?). All lent extra excitement by the greyfriars dig of course...

kinda wishing the people who did 'the tudors' on TV would now do this...but who would we pick to play the parts??? muses

BigBoPeep Tue 29-Jan-13 12:16:56

ok I'll trust you on the welsh books ariel, but what makes you so sure he killed the nephews eh? scratches chin and narrows eyes For me the biggest 'no' argument is that it didnt really serve him, just made everyone think he was the biggest bastard ever...

Colyngbourne Tue 29-Jan-13 12:26:32

Richard did execute Lord Hastings for conspiracy against his life: at the time Richard was the executive head of state, as Lord Protector and Constable of All England, and so any action or plot against Richard was a treasonable offence punishable by death. Execution is the outcome. Yes, it was done very quickly but Hastings' militia was the largest force in London at the time (compared to the small numbers of men brought by R and Buckingham), so decisive action had to be taken.

There is no natural assumption or surmise to be made that R killed his nephews.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Tue 29-Jan-13 12:50:17

It is a truth universally acknowledged that nothing will resurresct a dying Penman thread than an assertion that Richard III probably saw off his nephews.

He stood to gain being king rather than simply regent. The Tower was guarded so it's unlikely one of Henry's lackeys could have sneaked in and done it. But mostly, because Professor Jones at Nottingham University said so.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Tue 29-Jan-13 12:51:47

Excuse the typo.

BigBoPeep Mon 04-Feb-13 10:50:30

omg, it's him it's him! how remarkable, particularly that the only living descendents were the last of their line so in a generation, this wouldn't have been possible....amazing.

sieglinde Mon 04-Feb-13 10:56:18

Hi, bigbopeep. It is him. Ohmygod. Awesome. my home ed dd has been physically attached to the newscast.

Bit hmm about that dork from Leicester Cathedral - hey, mate, Richard was a medieval Catholic, not C of E as you almost claimed.

BigBoPeep Mon 04-Feb-13 14:50:23

thought he wanted to be buried at york? bit miffed at leicester wanting to keep their grasping little hands on him - theyve had him 500yrs already! hmm I think we should have a big state do aswell, I know he might be a child murderer, but it'd be fun!

Galaxymum Tue 05-Feb-13 14:15:53

This is my next book to read. I was so pleased it came on to kindle and bargain too. Sharon Penman's books are hard to find. But am all enthused after the discovery of Richard III! So really looking forward to this.

I also have Here Be Dragons. I MUST read it after the recommendations.

MsIngaFewmarbles Tue 05-Feb-13 19:48:47

I have bought this book to read. I have read the Phillipa Gregory books but although I really loved Lady of the Rivers, the Red/White Queen books just didn't convince me at all.

I also read (as a teen) 'Elizabeth the Beloved' about Elizabeth York which featured RIII heavily in a positive way. Still not sure who killed the princes.

TrucksAndDinosaurs Wed 06-Feb-13 11:01:21

77p today on amazon kindle!

Sulawesi Tue 12-Feb-13 18:58:21

Is Here Be Dragons really really good?? I loved The Sunne in Splendour it has to be said but it was a BIG old book, are the Welsh ones the same length? Happy to jump in if they are as good.

Agree re Phillipa Gregory although I did quite enjoy the Red Queen, White Queen a bit meh.

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