Changes

[JJforever]

I got a message on my app this week saying that changes are coming to the plan - I only use online, but wondered if anyone had any insight from meetings? I'm just about to do an online food shop and if point values are changing that may impact what I buy and my menu plan for the week!

[JJforever]

Ok so I have found out more for anyone else who is interested. The zero point food list has been expanded to now include:

Most vegetables
Most fruits
Eggs
Skinless chicken breast
Skinless turkey breast
Plant-based proteins like beans, peas, tofu, lentils and corn
Fat-free plain yogurt
All unsmoked fish and shellfish

I have gone down from 36 to 28 daily points (this includes my breastfeeding points). You can now rollover up to 4 points into your weeklies. Haven't fully looked into other differences for now.

[poorpaws]

Ooh that’s very interesting. I had a message yesterday but my meeting isn’t until Wednesday night so I expect all will be revealed then. I wonder why it’s all changed again.

[Shine2018]

WW website section all about the new plan

New Zero Points food list

At first I thought it was a brilliant idea because I am keen on the SW idea of 'free,' 'clean' foods. but then I realised that they're taking daily point away. So my 30 points are going down to 23. But if I have a boiled egg, some skinless chicken and some fat free Greek yoghurt anyway then the sum total is exactly the same.

I was hoping for more free foods but then still having 30 daily points....

Unless you really load up on the free foods then 23 dailies is going to eb hard...

[Shine2018]

Also the "200 New Zero Point Foods!" are basically 100 varieties of seafood - Orange roughy, Shark, Hoki, or Pike anyone?!

[JJforever]

I eat a lot of eggs, chicken and fat free yoghurt so am hoping it will be ok. It will also be good to use lentils ext to bulk soups/salads/stews up wwithout pointing. But agree the points are low. I may have to breastfeed my 8 month old forever because I do not want to lose those 6 points!

[Shine2018]

Actually it might not be so bad after all because today I’ve already tracked 9 points on things that will be 0 points once the new system kicks in!

[Watchingcountryfile]

So it seems to be going more 'Slimming World'? I'm not sure I like that. Weight watchers was better in that it restricted calories.

Annoying as I've just signed up on line.

Will give it a go.

[Iamdobby63]

I’m not happy with the changes, if I continued to eat and track what I would normally eat on WW, (whilst losing a steady weight) then I’m going to be over my points every day and that will put me in a negative mind set.

[LaGattaNera]

It's great for meat & fish eaters but I don't only want to eat tofu & pulses and resent spending 6 smart points on some low fat halloumi give then drop from 30 to 23 dailies. Agree with you Iamdobby I will find it more restrictive not better for my regime.

[JJforever]

I've started following the new plan today although I don't weigh in until tomorrow. I'm finding it good actually - have only used 5 points for breakfast and lunch combined, leaving quite a bit left even with the spicy turkey skewers, rice and salad planned for dinner.

When I've done SW before I fall down on the carbs, but I think this may also take the best of the SW free foods whilst still restricting my bread/pasta/potato intake.

[JJforever]

But my 28 dailies seems quite high compares to what other people are getting so that could be framing my view

[acatcalledjohn]

Most fruits
Eggs
Skinless chicken breast
Skinless turkey breast
Plant-based proteins like beans, peas, tofu, lentils and corn

But these foods are often surprisingly dense in calories, so the likelihood of consuming more calories than you burn is very possibly with this "free foods" list.

[AdmiralSirArchibald]

I have gone over my points today eating as I normally would because I have 10 less points and I eat carbs at each meal (weetabix/ wholemeal bread etc). The plan is basically going to make me go low carb. Which is probably a good thing but not exactly what I signed up for. Also milk in coffee and on cereal uses up a lot of my points- has the points value of milk gone up?

[rosiecam]

has the points value of milk gone up?

I haven't switched over yet because my meeting is on Saturdays so I can tell you the "old" points value of milk per 1/4 pint was:

skimmed 2 pts
semi-skimmed 3 pts
whole 4 pts

Has that changed?

I think I'll actually be under on the new system because I eat a lot of the newly-free foods. But I don't want to be pushed to eat more.

[JJforever]

I'm not sure because my app won't switch over until tomorrow. I hope not though as I drink a lot of tea.

I'm trying not to eat carbs at every meal - so yoghurt and fruit for breakfast usually, a wrap or pitta with lunch and often cauliflower rice/courgette with dinner if I want to save points (usually to spend them on wine though so hardly ideal )

[FannyBurney]

I’m quite optimistic about today’s changes for me. I want to lose between 2 and 3 stone and had already decided to do it eating a high veg diet with lots of beans and lentils plus fish for omega 3. I don’t go for low fat dairy, but eat a bit less of full fat cheese, olive oil, yogurt and point it all in an attempt to stay ‘Mediterranean’ without overdoing the calories. I’m not bothered about bread and I don’t have a sweet tooth but I do like a drink. I’ve been back on ww using smart points for two weeks and I’m down nearly 6lbs, eating like this, so I think I’ll just carry on. I am eating some fitpoints too, which I will probably have to stop doing soon though.

[FannyBurney]

I think milk is the same in flex as it was last week. I spend a lot on it because I often use full fat.

[AdmiralSirArchibald]

I've just realised is used to add 1/4 of a pint of milk and then changed to 1/2. No wonder the points doubled

[justkeeponsmiling]

I'm undecided as yet if I like the changes. On the one hand I'm veggie, so having more "free" food like eggs and pulses seems great and will save me a few points. On the other hand I feel I was managing well within my points allowance, and the drop of 6 points seems unsustainable at the moment - I was eating a lot of "free" or very low point foods anyway and usually made sure my lunch was something like 0pt veg soup or a big plate of roast veggies with a couple of quorn saussages. This meant I could keep save some points to use on a few cups of tea with milk every day, or splurge on a glass of wine or two in the evening. It suited me down to the ground, but I'm not sure it will work on the new plan. I will be absolutely gutted if these changes mean WW no longer works for me!

[Iamdobby63]

Yes the points for the milk in my coffee take a fair chunk of my dailies. I worked out my calories today and it worked out at 980! And that’s a couple of points over my daily allowance - so yes I guess this new plan means we will lose more weight! Lol

I don’t find protein filling and with low carb higher fat diets it’s the fat that makes you feel full.

I came over to WW having lost a reasonable amount on Atkins because I wanted to eat more regular foods, this new plan really doesn’t allow for that in my opinion.

Sad that baked beans aren’t reduced and neither is low fat flavoured yogurt, I know they wouldn’t be free but I feel they should be reduced in points as the beans are now free as are natural yogurt and low fat Greek yogurt.

[justkeeponsmiling]

dobby I agree that this plan seems like it does not allow so much for "regular" meals anymore. Yes, I can fill up on the new free protein but I'm not sure I want to. I liked WW as it was a good way to restrict calories and be more aware of what I eat, but I like a varied diet that includes some carbs and some healthy fats. I do not want to eat huge amounts of protein, even though it does fill me up. But I find it really boring in the long run and I feel I might not be able to stick to it

[Wilma55]

Chicken breast and salmon (the only fish I really like) are expensive too.

[JJforever]

I'm still feeling really positive about the plan - I actually think I might prefer it. With my meals today I'll again have quite a few points left over and I haven't been feeling hungry at all. I guess time will tell whether it's as effective or whether eating more fat free yoghurt/chicken/eggs etc will slow the weightloss.

I'm only about 8 weeks in to WW so far and just over a stone down and I really don't want it to come off any slower. I have about 2 stones to go and would really like it gone before I go back to work post mat leave

[Notreallyhappy]

www.weightwatchers.com/uk/m/cms/article/welcome-ww-flex

Here's the flex link there's a link on there for the food list.

[Iamdobby63]

JJforever That’s great, I hope it continues to work for you, I see no reason for it not to. I’m with the others who don’t eat enough of the zero foods for it to warrant the loss in points and I don’t eat them everyday. If I’m honest it’s really annoying me that they have called it ‘flex’ because, for me, it really isn’t.

I’m on a real down today, feeling lost, frustrated and a complete failure even though I would still be within the sp points with the old system.... maybe it’s the weather.