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Week 3 - New Year Low Carb Bootcamp - Full Fat or Light?

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BIWI Sun 20-Jan-13 17:08:47

So we've completed the hardest part of Bootcamp. Now is the time, if you wish, to relax things a little, and to move on to Bootcamp Light.

On the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness you will - after weighing in, of course - find the rules for Bootcamp Light. However, as I know some people can't access the spreadsheet easily, here they are:

Bootcamp Light

1. Eat when you’re hungry - if you’re not hungry, don’t eat
In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you’re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don’t force yourself to eat. But don’t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

2. Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals – meat/fish/eggs.
You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don’t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it – this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more – compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

5. You may eat some dairy
You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn’t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you’ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this – but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
Even if you’re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product – so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium, magnesium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you’re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado and spinach is a good source of magnesium. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

7. You may drink some alcohol
But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you’re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

8. You may eat some fruit
Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please – only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information – these are the carb counts:

Rhubarb – 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don’t forget you will need to sweeten this – and not with sugar!)
Blackberries – 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries – 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries – 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

9. You may eat some nuts/seeds
Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs.

Here are some carb counts – BUT – check the back of your packets as I don’t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:

Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

10. Avoid artificial sweeteners
The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us – and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable – occasionally – to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

Doshusallie Thu 31-Jan-13 08:08:36

New thread here guys

ScillyCow Wed 30-Jan-13 21:21:47

Braised cabbage for tea - thanks so much for that recipe.

SOrry to hear your news Frou.

Kiriwawa Mon 28-Jan-13 20:46:26

Frou and Jac - so sorry for your losses sad Hope you are both able to take comfort from your families.

How exciting to be biggest loser although this week's weigh in (on Tuesday for me) is going to be v different as I've been boozing it up this weekend. I have been v low carb on food (not eaten bread etc although I did eat a v slim slice of a flour free cake) but drank loads of wine/vodka and diet tonic.

I was mugged for my phone too which made me feel a bit fuck it about everything. It's covered on insurance but I'm just so cross about the whole thing - I haven't been out in the evening for months and months and the first time I do, this happens. I have obviously lost any street smart facility I might have once had sad

Anyway, back on the straight and narrow today - I made a delicious cauli and leek bake this evening which is v comforting.

halfthesize Mon 28-Jan-13 20:20:48

so sorry Frouto hear your dad died, take care of yourselfsad

Firsttimepig Mon 28-Jan-13 18:02:37

Well another 2lb loss this seems to work. Well done to all

So sorry froufrou to hear your sad news. Such a difficult and painful time for you; go easy on yourself. I'm glad to hear our banter is helping distract you a bit - do come and join us when you feel up to it and we will give you lots of hugs and support. BIWI has started a new Week Four thread so that's where everyone is today.

jan2013 Mon 28-Jan-13 14:44:08

im really sorry Frou. thinking of you

Anaisa i think sleep deprivation really messes with your weight. mine is going up and down like a yo yo and i know my eating hasn't been perfect, but since sleep has been so bad my weight has been much more volatile. im not weighing this week as itl not do my mood any good! and its TOM.

Doshusallie Mon 28-Jan-13 13:03:26

Gosh Frou, very very sorry to hear of your loss. Hope you and your family are able to find comfort in each other. Feel free to come on here and gain whatever support we can offer.

froufroulala Mon 28-Jan-13 12:48:02

Have not read the thread for a while sorry. Have not lost much but it is a loss I suppose. Am struggling atm as my Dad died last Thurs & I seem to want all the wrong foods. Will try & catch up on the thread as your banter really helps.

MrsHoolie Mon 28-Jan-13 12:17:47

My weight has stayed the same but lost 7lb in the last two weeks and feel ok about it as BIWI warned us.

Went to the local butcher this morning to buy some lovely meat,will try and keep it up as it is so much better than the supermarket meat.

Glad I'm not the only one no pooing much. I don't feel hideously bloated or anything.

catinboots Mon 28-Jan-13 11:17:54

Another 3lb off here grin

Anaisa Mon 28-Jan-13 09:23:01

Aaaarrrrgh my lovely 7 week DS2 decided eating every hour is so much more fun. I am seriously sleep deprived but was feeling quite cheerful as the weight was going down. But noooo, it was too good to be true, for some very strange reason I had a massive gain of 3 pounds this morning, which is a gain of 1 pound since last week. Now I am sleep deprived and not happy hmm. (I do know we have been warned about no loss this week, but my positive thinking was misapplied here, I was still convinced I'd lose 1lb at least. Sulking smiley.)

PinkPeanuts Mon 28-Jan-13 09:04:10

2lbs down here, not a bad start smile

Valdeeves Mon 28-Jan-13 08:56:43

Hi guys - can't weigh in again as no scales but don't seem to have changed body wise - think I'll be in the two week stall thing I'm sure. I'm doing strict Bootcamp so will just continue. Haven't fallen off the wagon though.
Mega tired - have a baby that wakes up on and off from 3/4 every night. Got to get to bed early but got so much going on in my life it's tricky right now!
Good luck with the weigh ins ladies!

BIWI Mon 28-Jan-13 08:55:31

Week 4 Chat thread here

littlermissstan Mon 28-Jan-13 08:48:06

I'm with you cathyandclaire - 4.5lbs put on from one day of excess on Saturday shock So let that be a lesson to us all! Will spreadsheet tomorrow maybe, once I've got over it...

cathyandclaire Mon 28-Jan-13 08:43:52

Well done to the losers...I'm weighing in late this week (as late as Willy will let me) have had a verrrrrry bad weekend so going to be super strict to get back to where I was, pretty sure I'm out of ketosis and look rather bloated.
And was it worth it?

LavenderBriggs Mon 28-Jan-13 08:43:05

Morning all. Weight stayed exactly the same this week, but as I spent most of the weekend feeling completely full up I'm not totally surprised. Now I understand the WOE I just need to tweak amounts.

DH is totally on board and made a big batch of moussaka at the weekend. While it was baking he handed me a piece of paper where he'd written the weights of all of the ingredients - including "garlic (unsquashed) 9g" smile

thanks to Jaq (and to Cheddar, hope you're feeling better).

FurryDogMother Mon 28-Jan-13 07:27:37

Only 1 lb off this week, but hey a lbs a lb, so am not complaining. That's 5lbs since we started, so I'm going in the right direction! We went out for Sunday lunch yesterday, and had scallops with pancetta and a celeriac puree to start, followed by roast beef and a lot of cabbage (and a couple of pieces of carrot). In the evening I made us a 'pizza' from 2 eggs and ground almonds for the base, plus tomato puree, grated mozzarella, sliced peppers, olives, and garlic - very tasty!

Woolfey Mon 28-Jan-13 07:09:13

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BlackAffronted Mon 28-Jan-13 07:02:02

Can we add a link to the food photo thread to either the spreadsheet or the new thread? smile Id love to see more pics of all your meals!

BlackAffronted Mon 28-Jan-13 07:01:17

Woolfey, it stands for The Idiot Proof Diet, a book by India Knight & Neris Someone. Its another version ofthe low carb diet, though it has phases so is ever so slightly different to Bootcamp. Worth reading though, for all the background info on emtional eating & carbs.

BlackAffronted Mon 28-Jan-13 06:59:19

I have been bleeding now for 2 weeks sad after so many years period-free, I am taking this very badly. Argh!

BlackAffronted Mon 28-Jan-13 06:56:16

MrsHoolie and teh rest, I used to be a daily goer, Im now once a week shock and nothing has helped. I eat plenty fat, I take magnesium and drink loads. Seems thats just the way I am now.

Woolfey Mon 28-Jan-13 06:49:04

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