New Year Low Carb Bootcamp interim thread!

[MrsHerculePoirot]

To continue chatting and preparing for the official start on 7th.

Rules and veg info can be found on the tabs on the old spreadsheet here.

[BlackAffronted]

Can any experienced low-carbers have a quick look at this recipe & tell me if its ok? I have used whole earth organic no added sugar peanut butter, and I wont be eating it all at once (I plan to have 2 or 3 with salad at lunch tomorrow). Thanks!

recipe here

[BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas]

Phew! Thank you, MrsHP!

A quick re-cap for anyone who is new/hasn't seen this so far:

The next low carb Bootcamp will be starting on 7 January. It will run for 10 weeks, which will take us to mid-March. The idea of Bootcamp is that we have an initial strict fortnight, which will see a significant amount of weight loss, followed by a more relaxed 8 weeks.

Overall, if you follow the rules, you can expect to lose anything up to 20lbs in this time period.

[FurryDogMother]

Ah, glad I found the new thread :) It's actually Day 151 for me, but only Day 3 of cutting out alcohol since Christmas (did a 6 week dry spell before Christmas). It's going OK so far, even if DH has gone to the pub without me!

[BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas]

*Here are the rules of Bootcamp:

1.Eat three, proper meals a day
You must eat breakfast. It doesn?t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)

2.Avoid processed food, and focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs.
Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3.Maximise your fat intake.
Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4.Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food ? this is where your carbs should come from.
But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list (see below). You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat

5.Minimal dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. You may eat cheese, but only in small amounts.

6.You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink

7.No alcohol

8.No fruit

9.No nuts/seeds

10.No sugar or artificial sweeteners

[BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas]

And this is the list of allowed veg. Please try and focus on those that are 3g carbs per 100g or less:

And this is the allowed list of veg:

Don?t eat any veg unless it?s on this list, and try and focus on eating those that are under 3g carbs per 100g:

Veg (raw)Carbs per 100g
Mushrooms0.4
Watercress0.4
Spinach0.8
Celery0.9
Broccoli1.1
Asparagus 1.4
Cucumber1.5
Lettuce1.7
Fennel1.8
Courgettes1.8
Cauliflower1.9
Avocado flesh1.9
Turnip2
Pumpkin2.2
Runner beans2.3
Swede2.3
Celeriac2.3
Bean sprouts2.5
Carrots2.5
Green pepper2.6
Baby sweetcorn2.7
Aubergine2.8
Leeks2.9
Okra3
Tomato3.1
Mangetout3.3
Shallots3.3
Brussels sprouts3.5
French beans4.7
Cabbage5
Yellow pepper5.3
Carrots6
Orange or red pepper6.4
Ginger (peeled)7.2
Butternut squash7.5
Onions7.9

[FurryDogMother]

Black looks good to me, though remember there's around 1g carb in each garlic clove, and check the info on the tin of coconut cream - some has added sugar. Also, no sweet chilli sauce, but I like Sriracha as an alternative (in much smaller amounts, unless you have a cast iron mouth!).

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[MrsHerculePoirot]

blackaffronted I think it looks ok. Carbiest thing I think is coconut cream and the lime (although not sure how carby lime is). It looks like it will serve 6 portions so should be fine I would have thought!

[BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas]

blackaffronted - work out how many carbs there will be in a portion, from the pack labels. (And don't serve any chilli sauce etc as they will be full of sugar!)

[BlackAffronted]

Thank you all. I wasnt going to have the sweet chilli sauce, just a couple of the drumsticks with salad. Going to check the carbs in the lime & coconut cream.

[GinotPrigio]

Just found an interesting recipe for low carb hot chocolate using coconut milk. I won't post it as I'm pretty sure that cocoa powder isn't allowed in the bootcamp period. Maybe best left for a treat after the 2 weeks are up!

[GinotPrigio]

BadnersnatchCummerbund To answer your q's in short:

• in moderation. lower carb fruits such as berries will be allowed
  

• http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/big_slim_whatever_weight_loss_club/1447493-Bootcamp-Recipe-Thread
  

• they are certainly banned for the first 2 weeks. Perhaps lentils may be allowed in moderation after bootcamp but someone else might know for certain
  

• I have low-carbed before and the weight has gone back on but that was because I made bad decisions overall - high carb, high fat, high calories - high everything! They weight would have gone back on no matter what diet I had done previously

[cocolepew]

Just marking my place

[MulledwineGless]

Well done mrs Hp

I typed a big reply on last thread but wouldn't accept the message

Gist of it was that I would like to convert DC to Paleo eating but DH not keen so am reducing their refined carbs and keeping to full fat foods. Spectacularly failed over Xmas and they are in school dinners so no choice there. If I were to change job I would do Paleo packed lunches but no chance at the mo

[MrsHerculePoirot]

After the initial two weeks some fruit is allowed in the form of berries as they are lower in carbs than other fruits.

There is a recipe thread - I will try to find link in a movement. BIWI above has listed allowed foods and veg so essentially anything based on those is allowed (obvs not if you add high carb sauces!)

No to porridge oats and lentils in bootcamp. When in maintenance from what others have said you need to add back in carbier foods slowly until you work out what works for you and your body. I know one poster said that different types of carbs affected her differently as opposed to a simple overall carb count.

[MulledwineGless]

Starfish if you don't mind me asking how long were you in maintenance?

[DharmaBumpkin]

Day 3 done. Really struggled today, felt 'deprived' for the first time. Stayed on plan though by the skin of my teeth and hoping to find it easier again tomorrow.

Suspect part of it is a very 'samey' dinner while we use up this week's shopping... Necessary but oh so boring!

Is a funny taste/feeling in your mouth a common side effect of this WOE? I feel today like I haven't brushed my teeth in a week.

B: scrambled eggs & butter fried mushrooms
L: Homemade chicken soup, with cheese
3pm wobble: olives w/ feta cheese, coddled egg & a baby bell!
D: Fish w/ oil & rosemary sauce, broccoli, carrots & cauliflower mash w/cream.

[MulledwineGless]

Yes dharma it is- that's your body going into ketosis. Whoop whoop
You are going to be fat burning now

[EwanHoozami]

Banders When I've hit my target weight I intend to experiment with carefully reintroducing foods like lentils and porridge and maybe some wholegrains back in. The 'maintenance' phase, I believe.

[MulledwineGless]

And seriously if you are hungry this week then eat- just low carb yummy food!

B boiled egg with dollop of mayo
L mushroom soup
D gammon with fried mushrooms and leeks with dash of cream

Cold - I would stick with dairy too for DS lunches

If vnmum is around she has been doing Paleo for her DC for a while

[GreenyEyes]

B- bacon, fried egg, sausage. Black coffee
L- nothing forgot I had a dentists appt
T- slow cooked beef stew (beef, shallots, stock), broccoli cheese, and mashed swede.

2.5l water

[DharmaBumpkin]

Oh thanks Mulled - nice to think that there might be something beneficial from a hard day!

Interestingly (I am tracking on MFP) I was below my daily calories despite eating like an insatiable eating thing all day!