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IS Food really just for fun before 1?

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Kmxxx14 Fri 10-Feb-17 13:18:58

I hear this a lot but I'm not sure whether it's accurate or not. I remember with my son (now 5) he was on 3 meals a day by 1 years old - it certainly wasn't just for fun.

Nowthereistwo Fri 10-Feb-17 13:22:47

I personally don't think so either. I think it's a saying to try and take the press off.

Iwannasnack Fri 10-Feb-17 13:26:20

No. If food is delayed much past 6 months there is a high chance of iron deficiency.

JiltedJohnsJulie Fri 10-Feb-17 14:08:41

No. If food is delayed much past 6 months there is a high chance of iron deficiency.. I don't think the op was talking about delaying Weaning, just that it might to be essential to completely stuff them with food before one.

If iron is a concern, there are things you can do before 6 months like not have the cord cut until it's stopped pulsating and bf smile

TheresABluebirdOnMyShoulder Fri 10-Feb-17 14:16:58

snack is right, evidence suggests that there are certain nutrients that babies need that they can't get enough of from breastmilk or formula alone after 6 months. Iron being one of them.

Have a look on the WHO website, they've got some good advice. Also the UNICEF website used to be a good source of info but I haven't been on there for a while.

JiltedJohnsJulie Fri 10-Feb-17 14:19:29

Again, I don't think that the Foid is for Fun bit means not feeding your child. I just think it means that you offer them a range and variety of food and it's up to them whether they eat it or not.

JiltedJohnsJulie Fri 10-Feb-17 14:21:27

Oh and cooking using an iron saucepan will also improve iron levels, for all the family.

AssassinatedBeauty Fri 10-Feb-17 14:21:43

It's also not an official phrase used by any health campaign. It's just a common saying that people use to mean don't stress out about food.

ILoveCheeseMoreThanYou Fri 10-Feb-17 14:24:39

Not cutting the cord until it stops pulsating? I've never heard that one before. How common is this?

Kmxxx14 Fri 10-Feb-17 14:26:13

Ok thanks everyone.

I did delay cord cutting and I do BF so she's hopefully not too low in iron yet.

She's not 6 months yet and I don't plan on starting until she is but I was just wondering how serious food should be before 1.

picklemepopcorn Fri 10-Feb-17 14:26:45

The cord thing's been around for a while now, that the blood transmission isn't complete when the baby is born, and the cord shouldn't be cut too soon as it is still 'topping up' the baby.

lozengeoflove Fri 10-Feb-17 14:27:08

Very common. Established practice in most hospitals I thought.

ILoveCheeseMoreThanYou Fri 10-Feb-17 14:29:11

When you say delayed, roughly how long? All this is new to me, I really am learning something new everyday!

TheSnorkMaidenReturns Fri 10-Feb-17 14:35:19

Just don't stress about food. Offer food and if they don't eat it, move on to something else or just move on. Keep it calm, don't worry about mess.

JiltedJohnsJulie Fri 10-Feb-17 14:36:49

@Kmxxx14 this on Kellymom is an interesting read on iron. smile

Interestingly, I never saw a single post from any Mum worrying about their LOs iron levels until a certain formula producer did an advert showing a baby with a huge bottle and implying that babies won't get enough iron unless we bought their follow-on milk.

SnugglySnerd Fri 10-Feb-17 14:38:55

I think the advice is not to cut the cord until it stops pulsating, about 7-10 mins I think.
I started weaning DD at 6 months and although she tried lots if things she didn't really eat much until she was about 11 months. She is fine! I think the expression is because most of a baby's nutrition will still be from milk until they are one.

NickyEds Fri 10-Feb-17 14:39:49

No, I don't think food is just for fun before one, weaning is a process and it doesn't happen overnight. Pp is correct that children can be at risk of iron deficiency if they continue to have lots of milk in place of food over 12 months old. It's a saying and I've always thought it just means to relax about weaning.

Ilove I think delayed cord clamping is now standard. NICE recommends no cord clamping until after a minute post birth I think- I had dd 19 months ago under hurried and quick circumstances and they still delayed clamping the cord for a few minutes.

FartnissEverbeans Fri 10-Feb-17 15:00:34

JiltedJohnsJulie I'm not sure that's quite right - as I understand it, it's actually breastfed babies (beyond six months) who are most likely to become iron deficient if not given supplementary foods?

JiltedJohnsJulie Fri 10-Feb-17 15:03:32

Really? Never heard of that. Have you got any links to research please?

FartnissEverbeans Fri 10-Feb-17 15:05:31

Re: iron, I found this:

If you try to meet your infant’s iron requirement on breast milk alone, she would have to consume between 4 and 13 liters of breast milk per day, depending on your baby’s efficiency of iron absorption from breast milk (estimates range from 15-50% absorption). Most exclusively breastfed babies don’t consume much more than 1 liter of milk per day... Babies that are exclusively breastfed beyond 6 months of age are at higher risk for iron deficiency [5-7] than those fed iron-fortified formula.

scienceofmom.com

The website goes on to give various sources and explanations for why breastmilk might be low in iron (delayed cord clamping is mentioned, and something about babies eating soil confused) but basically breastfed babies in modern times are probably going to need supplementation beyond six months.

JiltedJohnsJulie Fri 10-Feb-17 15:08:35

That seems to be quite different to the research shown on the kellymom link. Have you got a link please so I can look at the research they are quoting?

FartnissEverbeans Fri 10-Feb-17 15:09:12

Sorry, links:

scienceofmom.com/2011/10/12/why-is-breast-milk-so-low-in-iron/

Also Kellymom has some stuff on iron and claims it's a bit more complex

kellymom.com/nutrition/vitamins/iron/#atrisk

FartnissEverbeans Fri 10-Feb-17 15:09:57

Cross posted! It looks like not all breastfed babies will become anaemic but it can happen.

EpoxyResin Fri 10-Feb-17 15:10:53

I wondered exactly the same thing when weaning. I found this "bullshitometer" blog entry which pretty much sums up how I see things.

FartnissEverbeans Fri 10-Feb-17 15:18:27

EpoxyResin Interesting blog! I'm going to have a good read of that...

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