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Seriously? Why the rush to wean early?

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ecat Fri 18-Jan-13 23:32:37

I really don't understand why there is such a huge desire to rush the weaning process. If the WHO says 6 months and most babies are only just starting to sit up straight enough to swallow, why are babies being made to do things that they are not physically ready for?
A bit of a rant but I just don't get it!

AlreadyScone Fri 18-Jan-13 23:38:10

Both of mine were ready at just over 5 months. I can't explain how I knew, it was the same instinct that told me to breastfeed on demand up until then.

DC1 was born just before the WHO changed their advice from weaning at 20 weeks (I think) to 6 months, so I had my HV telling me different things from one week to the next. One week I was breastfeeding exclusively for too long, and a fortnight later the WHO advice changed again and I had weaned too early!

Both DC are in rude health...

Weightlessbaby Fri 18-Jan-13 23:45:34

My DD never fancied milk much and was obviously hungry for something else by 4 months. We started it very gradually but she obviously relished it and now, at nearly a year, has a very varied diet (and still isn't very bothered abouth milk).

So yes the WHO say 6 months but is this not just a guideline? (and as such reasonable variations should be expected within it)?

ElphabaTheGreen Sat 19-Jan-13 15:10:47

It's a guideline based on population- based evidence that there is an increased risk of allergies and gut problems in later life if you wean earlier than six months, as the digestive tract is not mature enough for solids before the age of about six months. The advice now is most definitely 'as close to six months as possible', no longer 'between four and six months' as people were interpreting that as free-reign to wean at four months.

I don't get the rush to wean early either, OP. Yes, every baby is different personality-wise. But physiologically? Nope, not many differences there. I don't see the point in taking the risk.

But I'm sure the advice will have changed again in another 20 years smile

RichManPoorManBeggarmanThief Sun 27-Jan-13 12:09:58

Already I know what you mean. With DS I waited until 6 months, and that was the right thing to do. Even then he wasn't that enthusiastic and he struggled to actually get the food to his mouth. With DD I just felt that she was ready at 5mo- she could sit unsupported and had very good fine motor skills. She was showing a lot of interest in food- trying to grab my food if I had her on my lap, which DS never did, and just staring at me eating with a look I can only describe as longing on her face. I'm doing BLW so I figured if she didn't want it, she'd just not eat it, but I was very surprised at how enthusiastic she was. However, because she is a little young, I'm doing a watered down version with gradual intro of foods, and not much that wasn't fruit or veg before 6 mo.

IdaClair Sun 27-Jan-13 12:35:15

I have no idea why the rush. In some cases it seems to be the rush to be the first and have the babies grow up and I see it in newborns in jeans, general pride in how big and strong the baby is getting (nothing wrong with these it's just a general theme) but it can manifest in baby so advanced ready for solids, baby so big they have grown out of crib and need cot, baby so big they have grown out of infant car seat, baby so advanced they need to forward face, baby would never just be satisified on milk etc. The other factor is perhaps a misunderstanding around the 4 month sleep regression/growth spurt, misinterpretation of teething/finding of hands/gnawing on toys and so on. And then there may be some babies who are ready earlier (and some, logically, later).

Seriouslysleepdeprived Sun 27-Jan-13 15:36:36

Yeah I think the four month sleep regression combined with them starting to put everything in their mouths, leads people to believe its hunger. Even if it was, milk has far more calories. A few spoons of fruit or veg can't compete with a milk feed.

As Elpha said the guidelines are pretty clear & have been for 10 years now. Start around 6 months to minimise the risks. I have coeliac disease (diagnosed in my 30's) & it's shit being excluded from almost every social occasion, holidays are difficult, no spontaneity as I won't be able to eat...not to mention the long term effects on my health.

I waited the 6 months. DS didn't really eat anything for a other was just stressful trying to fit it all in the day tbh.

Wheresmycaffeinedrip Sun 27-Jan-13 15:46:22

Some people r advised by hcp to wean early to help with severe reflux or whatever. It's not always a case of someone being in a hurry to wean.

You just have to do what's right for your baby and trust that the majority will do the same for theirs.

RubyrooUK Sun 27-Jan-13 15:55:59

I don't know either. I agree that particularly with first babies, some people are very keen to hit each milestone along the way. (I know I couldn't wait for DS1 to start crawling, whereas I don't think I will care for DS2.)

I do accept that some babies would be ready for weaning earlier and later. My DS could sit up unsupported from 16 weeks and snatched food off our plates and ate it at 20-25 weeks. I still didn't really wean him till nearly 6 months but he was probably ready a little early.

On the other hand, a relative has weaned her son since he turned 4mo although he isn't yet able to hold things up to his mouth and he can't sit unsupported or even really propped upright yet. That seems far too soon to me, but I feel like I'd seem really judgemental if I said anything.

Seriouslysleepdeprived Sun 27-Jan-13 15:56:36

DS has severe reflux but with my medical history, I was told it wasn't worth the risk. I agree for some it's the only option though. Reflux is a tough call.

Wheresmycaffeinedrip Sun 27-Jan-13 16:05:11

I think it's important to Remember that the WHO may have looked at thousands of babies but they haven't looked at yours!

Babies r individuals who's needs us as parents must meet and they haven't read the guide lines and their bodies r ready when they r ready not when they r supposed to be ready.

TryDrawing Sun 27-Jan-13 16:06:25

I can totally understand the rush. For a lot of people, life with a baby is bloody relentless hard work. The temptation to do anything to convince yourself that they're growing up and it's all getting better and easier is overwhelming at times. Weaning onto solids is a big milestone which people grab on to as being a time when their baby will sleep through, stop needing milk every 5 minutes, or whatever it is that they are struggling with.

Wheresmycaffeinedrip Sun 27-Jan-13 16:11:37

That's a very good point drawing smile

Its all very well judging someone but they aren't the ones with babies drinking milk til they r sick, or feeding two hourly day and night for weeks with exhausted whingey babies who for the love of god just want to feel full without being so bloated they can't move.

It's tough and people feel bad enough half the time without worrying what other people r thinking.

ninjasquirrel Sun 27-Jan-13 16:13:18

Well some babies are obviously weaned before they are physically ready, but I think babies vary a lot in how keen they are about solids - some are grabbing food at 5 months, whereas my DS was a total milk monster and still fairly unenthusiastic and fussy about solid food at 9 months.

IdaClair Sun 27-Jan-13 16:21:07

Wheresmycaffeine you just described my dd to a T, feeds every 2 hours day and night, throws it all back, whingy, severe reflux under the paed. I'm counting the days until 6 months really I am!

Wheresmycaffeinedrip Sun 27-Jan-13 16:25:01

sad ida that sounds really tough! How much longer u gotta wait?

IdaClair Sun 27-Jan-13 16:25:59

38 days grin

Wheresmycaffeinedrip Sun 27-Jan-13 16:28:50

grin wine if ur ff

Decaf brew if ur bf smile

You can get thru it grin

lljkk Sun 27-Jan-13 16:40:52

I vividly remember a friend saying "You're always keen for them to move onto the next stage."

Really? That's so common? confused. Why don't I feel that way? They're babies in my mind until 2yo, anyway.

It's like finding out how much self-esteem women invest in their bra size. That's been a big MN revelation for me, too.

TerracottaPie Sun 27-Jan-13 16:41:07

I saw a fb status update the other day that made me think about this topic.

Someone's DC has turned 6 months, I've been seeing pics of them with baby rice from around 4mo and then other puréed veg periodically. But their comment at the DC reaching 6mo was that they had just started to 'get' food and 'talk about leaving it til the last minute'.

Which made me think the DC wasn't ready to have food before that, so what was the hurry from 4mo and why on earth did the Mum think the baby was leaving it until the last minute to 'get' the idea of food when they had only just turned 6mo?

IdaClair Sun 27-Jan-13 17:25:25

I'm bf wheresmycaffeine but can't manage caffeine free <clinks coffee cups>

I'm not really a to-the-day type but I do believe the 'in the middle of the first year' recommendation is correct and I will go with that. I think dd will be one of the later ones anyway. I'd be suprised if she eats much before 7-8 months, really surprised, maybe later.

Wheresmycaffeinedrip Sun 27-Jan-13 17:31:37

I hope it brings some let up to the reflux for you!

Must be heart breaking to see her struggle so much brew <clinks back>

jeneregretrien Mon 28-Jan-13 12:52:48

I have 5 kids, 16 years, 13 years, 11 and 10 years, and 17 weeks. I am not in a hurry at all, enjoying every second of my beautiful and last baby. I do give him baby rice and pear already though. I am not inexperienced with babies, have 4 kids in robust health, don't have any friends with babies I'm doing that whole daft competition nonsense with about how "far on" our babies are. More concerned with GCSE results right now. Until he had a bit of rice and fruit he was hungry and fussing more and more at each bottle feed. He sleeps 12 hours at night without a murmur, smiles all day, sits happily in his chair looking around this busy household. Will it make him ill in later life? Well I don't believe so. When I think about the risks our children all face as they grow up I can't get too het up about what difference 8 weeks makes in the big scheme of things. Car journeys, plane journeys, bullying, temptation to take drugs, have unprotected sex, and so on. Let's keep matters in perspective. I was weaned at 3 months as was most of my generation and never been seriously ill my whole life for which I am extremely grateful. WHO guidelines are just that, guidelines. Useful, but not all knowing. A good parent knows when to introduce some mushed up rice and fruit.

Seriouslysleepdeprived Mon 28-Jan-13 14:17:51

Ahh but this is the thing you see I was in 'rude health' until my 30's. I now I have to live the rest of my life with an auto immune disorder.

I was also part if the 3 month weaning generation. i just wasn't so lucky.

jeneregretrien Mon 28-Jan-13 16:27:48

Very sorry you suffer with an auto immune disease sad..just not convinced it can be directly attributed to 3 month weaning?????? So many other factors at play.

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