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Is anyone else waiting for single mumps jab?

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cockneysparrow1977 Mon 07-Nov-11 20:58:44

hi there
I posted a message the other day about the single mumps vaccine only had one response it's been pretty quiet on here lately!
Just wondered if there is anyone else waiting for the single mumps jab? We went down the road of single jabs we've had measles and rubella but we've been waiting 2 years for the mumps vaccine. A clinic in London have said they ate expecting supplies in December although I'm
Not sure I'm feeling confident about it they are taking peoples money up front it's already been moved from July! The private clinic we started the singles with informed me the longer the mumps vaccine is unavailable the likely hood is it will never be! He is a gp and has said that he feels confident in the mmr and that his advice would be to go for the mmr if mumps is still not available he says he has given it to all 3 of his children it's hard isn't it as I'm sure that doctors etc wouldn't give it to their children if it wasn't safe but it makes you feel uneasy when there has been so much negative press about the mmr and autism! I'm also paranoid about my daughter getting mumps as my gp told me that whilst training in peadetrics she see a case of a toddler that ended in cerebal palesy! I'm delaying my daughter starting preschool until jan on the premise this mumps jab comes up as I'm worried about her catching it! Anyone else started with singles and then opted for mmr for the same reason???
S xxx

CatherinaJTV Sun 16-Sep-12 17:21:13

It would be a "one off" or at least a "one for a very long time" test. There is certainly no reason to test titres annually, unless your son would work in a high risk profession (medic/teacher or so).

1Guy Sun 16-Sep-12 17:12:46

Need to be aware that many private clinics are trying to get approval for a new vaccine following the Merck withdrawal. There are none approved at the moment and at least one is following a similar route to a previously rejected vaccine under a new name .... it is important that vaccines are proven to be both safe and effective not simply safe.

The MHRA (the body which ultimately manages these approvals in the UK) last week posted its findings on statements made on the CIC website ..

Advertising investigations

13 September 2012
The MHRA was made aware of information presented on the Children’s Immunisation Centre (CIC) website about Medi-Mumps and a related press release. The MHRA was concerned that the information provided an unbalanced view of the safety and efficacy of the vaccine because it did not mention the MHRA’s concerns and previous CSM advice or that the product was unlicensed.

We understood that the Medi-Mumps vaccine is manufactured from the same stock and processed in the same way as Pavivac mumps vaccine. The MHRA, acting on advice from an independent advisory committee, the Committee on Safety of Medicines (CSM), has for a number of years objected to the importation of the Pavivac product because there is insufficient information available to assure its safety, quality and efficacy. See statement from the committee on safety of medicines (82Kb) for more details.

CIC amended the websites to remove the information about Medi-Mumps.

Date case raised: 3 April 2012
Date action agreed: 2 May 2012
Date of publication: 13 September 2012

We, like many parents, have completed all our vaccinations except the mumps in both our children. We would consider the MMR however we have asked our GP and a Consultant to confirm that it is known to be safe to double/triple dose on the elements of MMR already received, and no one can say. We have written to Merck and received a reply passing us to another part of the empire and we are still waiting. We have written to our MP.

The NHS Choices website states it is ok but not the basis for this claim. A qualified PHd student in this field informally advised us that it should be ok because the body will ignore the known elements of the MMR.

We will pursue an answer from Merck but feel the government should do more to help clarify the position and reassure parents 'stranded' by the unplanned change in Merck's production policy in 2011. (This is not the government' 'fault' although some claim that there was political pressure on Merck in the US at least) but a duty of care to support families in this position should be a priority as it will in due course undermine herd immunity.

OpenMindedSceptic Tue 07-Aug-12 13:07:07

just found this info on babyjabs website, not sure how old it is

Mumps vaccine latest

BabyJabs is aware that a single mumps vaccine may be available in the UK over the coming weeks. At present we do not know the manufacturer nor do we have any information on the effectiveness or safety of this vaccine. If we are totally satisfied that this vaccine is both safe and effective then we will offer it. We will post further information as soon as we have it.

Seona1973 Fri 29-Jun-12 12:41:27

according to this Merck has no intention of making the single mumps vaccine so it may never become available again

Callal Fri 29-Jun-12 11:11:17

Spoken to childrens immunisation centre earlier. Still no update on mump vaccine supply!
My boy is 6 now and been waiting 3 years for CIC to come up with the final part in his MMR single vacs. We continually get appointments which used to fill me with hope until weeks before you receive txt saying no stock. Last update was that the CIC where lobbying MP? Not heard a whisper since anyone else got any info.....

Beckamaw Mon 14-May-12 02:38:23

Just to add: both of my DDs had mumps last year.
Both had received the MMR. One had both jabs, the other was 6 mths from her booster.
They caught it from a friend of mine who is a teacher and who had mumps for a second time!
Looks like MMR doesn't necessarily provide protection in all cases.

Oh, and anyone worried about the potential link between MMR and autism should look at the twin studies conducted. These prove that autism is genetic. MMR can possibly expedite the onset of autism but it is not the cause.

Sorry to add further confusion.

bumbleymummy Tue 03-Apr-12 13:33:39

viral is an important word there. Viral meningitis is not the same as bacterial meningitis. It is much less serious. From the meningitis research foundation :

"Most cases of viral meningitis are relatively mild, with symptoms of headache, fever and general ill feeling, and those affected recover without medical treatment."

Also, according to the HPA there is no firm evidence that mumps causes sterility.

balia Tue 03-Apr-12 12:28:51

I don't think there is chance of the clinics getting single mumps vaccine - it isn't being manufactured anymore. We got caught the same way with DSS; paid for the first two singles after being assured by the clinic that they would get supplies of the mumps by x date. Nice little earner (allegedly). We finally just got the MMR (which was what we wanted to do in the first place) and it was fine.

I think you are right to want to get your daughter fully immunised, OP, and whilst sterility is hardly going to be a major concern to you and your DD personally, the risks of meningitis might be. Before the MMR was introduced, mumps was the commonest cause of viral meningitis in the UK.

bumbleymummy Tue 03-Apr-12 08:43:21

I would consider the most important to be the one that protects against the disease that potentially carries more risks.

CatherinaJTV Mon 02-Apr-12 19:09:04

yupp - that is why

bumbleymummy Mon 02-Apr-12 17:26:11

Why would say that mumps is the most important booster? In the sense that the mumps component of the MMR is the least likely to work?

CatherinaJTV Sun 01-Apr-12 20:31:25

BleepyBoop - mumps is probably the most important booster and still not available as a single, so if you went with singles now, you'd be stuck without mumps.

BleepyBloop Sun 01-Apr-12 19:03:03

I've been following this thread with interest. My ds had the first mmr jab when he was almost 2yo. We didn't have the money to go for separate jabs and we we were about to travel abroad so... Fortunately he didn't have any unusual reactions. I wonder about giving him a booster. Has anyone here done the first mmr and then had separate jabs done?

CatherinaJTV Fri 23-Mar-12 23:25:04

with regards to rubella and measles, the blood test is a one off, definitely not every year - there is some indication that the mumps immunity may wane, but if was immune to mumps after 1 MMR, that would probably last him for into his early 20ies and any further blood draw would be his business...

monkey36 Fri 23-Mar-12 13:12:01

Flipping heck - what a mess. I don't think there will be any mumpvax singles for the time being or ever until government policy changes. My DS is now 12 and has had all singles x2, except the final mumps. I'll consider blood tests but seem to recall that you would still have to check annually - can anyone pls shed some light on this. If it's not a one off blood test, then I think I may have to go down the MMR route - hoping that at his age, risks of the MMR will be minimal.

SouthernB Thu 08-Mar-12 12:33:09

Just called Children's Immunisation Centre - mumps vaccine not available, and receptionist can't confirm when it will be.

MotherPanda Thu 24-Nov-11 10:34:55

Misread your title - thought you were talking about a single mums jab.

I wondered what on earth one of those did!

bumbleymummy Thu 24-Nov-11 10:33:11

cockney - maybe there's a difference when you space them out compared to giving 3 live vaccines in one go. I think the MMR was the first vaccine to do that.

bumbleymummy Thu 24-Nov-11 10:31:53

Yet you still think that it's parents choosing not to vaccinate their children when they're young that are keeping mumps in the population hmm

Just checked the NHS website and I stand corrected - risk of permanent deafness is given as 1 in 15000.

cockneysparrow1977 Thu 24-Nov-11 10:29:36

Looby: yes it is worrying knowing the best choice to make for your children! It's difficult as you say reading the Negative press etc about the mmr, my sister is a journalist and she says never to believe anything you read in the dailymail maybe they dont have a credible reputation in the media!
I guess what I don't understand is the singles jabs are the same vaccines as what's used in the mmr so how can it be any different??? I guess that's what friends have questioned that have gone down the mmr route! God knows it's a mindfield!
My dh is of the same opinion as your dh doesn't share my concerns!
If the single mumps doesn't come off doesn't look like there is much choice if we want to be covered for all diseases sad(((

CatherinaJTV Thu 24-Nov-11 08:11:55

1 in 650 to 1 in 1000 according to two Japanese studies.

A colleague just had mumps for the second time. Mumps may be similar to pertussis, needing some boosting for lasting immunity...

bumbleymummy Wed 23-Nov-11 22:20:42

Why are you rolling your eyes Catherina? I think permanent deafness is listed as a very rare complication on the NHS website - 1 in 30,000 iirc.

Viva, yes, I think that is why there are now so many outbreaks of mumps in universities etc which isnt great considering that the risks of complications are much higher in adults! I think the mumps component of the vaccine has had to be 'tweaked' quite a few times and iirc it's the least effective component.

VivaLeBeaver Wed 23-Nov-11 20:44:36

My gp told me not to get dd vaccinated until she was about ten. He said ideally she would catch mumps prior to this and then get lifetime immunity. So try to get it before adolescence. He said the vaccine only protects for about ten to fifteen years, not sure how true this is. So he said there's a danger of vaccinating young and then becoming susceptible again when a teenager, young adult.

CatherinaJTV Wed 23-Nov-11 20:41:35

Tabitha - one of the major infectious causes

CatherinaJTV Wed 23-Nov-11 20:41:10

The fact that many decide not to vaccinate their sons against mumps until they hit puberty contributes to the survival of mumps in the population.

Apart from that, I read the HPA description and the complications described are nothing I want to risk (nice to know, for example, that the 1 in 25 cases of profound deafness are "usually transient" - roll eyes).

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