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Everyone telling us to call it quits with dpony

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Lalalalalalalalaland Fri 02-Aug-19 17:54:17

Bought a pony around 6 weeks ago for DD who is nearly 8.

Came from neighbouring pony club, ex BSJA pony flew through its vetting and came with millions of amazing references. He's 22x we wanted something older that had been there and done that.

DD tried the pony a few times and he was ace. Got him home and started having problems jumping he just always dashes out to the right. We went to camp this week and he did it at nearly every jump.

He is otherwise great, hacks out without a lead rein hoof perfect, the few times shes fallen hes just stood by her and not run off, great manners on the ground.

She has twice lost her reins bringing him back to trot from canter as he pulls his head down, I'm presuming this is due to her pulling too hard on his bit.

His bit is a 3 ring gag with a grackle which i think is too much though he can be strong at times but she isn't yet gentle enough with her hands.

A few parents at camp have said we should just chalk it up to a bad job and get a new pony after he dodged every jump in the cross country.

However i don't want to give up on him as he is otherwise perfect. His old owners have been amazing and offered us loads of advice but it all comes down to the fact that she needs to be bossy with him and she isn't. I'm not sure that confidence can be taught, you are either brave or you aren't.

In this scenario would you stick at it with lots of lessins with good instructors and hope it comes or sell and try something easier for her?

Coffeeandchocolate9 Fri 20-Sep-19 12:43:13

If you had a 5* vetting ask your vets to test his blood sample for doping.

UrsulaPandress Fri 20-Sep-19 12:45:21

I’d be naming and shaming the previous owners. Utter utter bastards.

maxelly Fri 20-Sep-19 14:24:21

Oh no! So sorry to hear this. Just when things were looking up too... poor pony, but at least he's landed on his feet and will have a good home with you rather than being passed on again. I'd try and look on the positive side, at least you have found out now, if you'd pressed on and pushed him/DD to jump more and more (taking the well meaning but useless advice from other PC parents of just push him through it) it could all have ended in tears (more so than it has already!), so that's something.

It just goes to show that it's so so common for behavioural issues in horses/animals in general to be rooted in pain/fear rather than naughtiness - I'd go so far as to say nearly all the time (I know ponies can be little shits but it always sounded a bit with this one as though it was more than that).

Obviously the main blame here lies with his very unscrupulous previous owners who are scum of the earth angry angry , but I'd also want words with the vet that did the vetting and also the vet you had out to him when the problems started, did neither of them pick anything up? To be fair some things like hocks and KS only show up on X-Rays - I wouldn't blame you for not x-raying a 22 year old kids pony, and if he was doped there may not have been obvious symptoms. But if you had a 'normal' 5 stage bloods should have been taken at vetting and should show what he'd been given- if so then you may well be able to take out some kind of case against former owners as that is active deception rather than a case of caveat emptor. BHS have an excellent legal advice line you could talk to? Also is he insured for loss of use? They may well say 'previous known condition so excluded' but again if you had taken all reasonable steps including vetting and didn't find the issue then, you might get something.

So sorry this has happened, buying ponies is such a minefield. Hope your DD isn't too upset and it all works out OK with new loan pony...

Lalalalalalalalaland Fri 20-Sep-19 16:03:55

Its not so much a medical issue as the fact that he is sour from being over jumped and years and years of competing, he just doesn't want to do it. the instructor told the old owners last year to stop before he hurts someone as he does not want to jump. Instructor said she had heard they gave him bute before competitions aswell as competition mix to rev him up. She is disgusted we were sold him as suitable for a 7 year old for pony club.

We had a 2 stage vetting done not a a 5 stage due to age and thst he wasn't overly expensive. Again not insured due to this reason (though she has normal pony club insurance for 3rd party) vet didn't pick up any pain or stiffness.

New loan pony is arriving monday with full references from pony.club DC, previous owners and with a 1 month trial. She can still flatwork him absoloutly but doesn't particularly have time to exercise 2 ponies, however he loves to hack and is otherwise a gentleman so he will do our 4 year old as a lovely lead rein hacking and flatwork pony. It's not his fault and unlike his previous owner we love our animals so he will live out his days with us doing som hacking and being treated like a king.

Lalalalalalalalaland Fri 20-Sep-19 16:06:52

Though the past few weeks when we've stepped work back up he has been stiff behind, we have been giving glucosamine and more turnout which has helped but may be a pain element.

Flexation tests in the vetting were fine

Booboostwo Fri 20-Sep-19 20:34:08

In my experience this kind of behaviour is always down to pain. If he was able to jump on bite then clearly the painkiller was masking a physical issue.

I only mention this because I think you should be a little bit cautious with him even as a lead rein or flatwork pony. If he is in pain jumping, one day he may be in pain hacking and he may do something unpredictable and dangerous.

UrsulaPandress Fri 20-Sep-19 21:07:37

Thank you he can end his days with you.

I hate seeing old horses advertised for sale.

UrsulaPandress Fri 20-Sep-19 21:07:55

Thank goodness 🙄

LaPufalina Fri 20-Sep-19 21:21:12

Oh what a shame for you OP, but hope it works out with your new pony.
My oldest friend bought a pony for her six year old last year; she second-viewed one before that but turned up an hour early and he hadn't been doped yet. The little girl whose parents were selling refused to get on him and was sobbing.
I'll be in the market for a first pony for DD1 in a few years and can't believe people would do this sad

Lalalalalalalalaland Mon 23-Sep-19 20:00:22

There i definately some pain. The back lady has been out this evening and his hips and back were out of line and he is already moving so much better!

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