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zombiemum123 Mon 22-May-17 22:18:19

So after 5 years of battling a nutter of a mare iv had a long discussion with my vet and were really trying regumate.. just curious to other people's experiences with it? Tried everything on the shelf with no success. She's always tempremental but worse in summer... winters not that great though, can mares also season all winter too? Any thoughts comments welcome grin

zombiemum123 Mon 22-May-17 22:20:35

The titles suppose to say regumate hmmblush

BaldricksWife Tue 23-May-17 10:38:21

Mainly used it during mare pregnancies but know some people who use it as you are thinking, but if you compete under rules then it is on the prohibited list. Take care not to come in to contact with it yourself though! Have you asked your vet about inserting a marble?

Booboostwo Tue 23-May-17 21:37:50

Used it on a crazy mare but it had no effect. Never bought a mare again! Sorry that doesn't help!

Have her ovaries been scoped?

DraughtyWindow Tue 23-May-17 22:15:20

We tried Regumate. It made no difference. We then had her scoped for ulcers.... She has a few, grade 1-3. Now she's on Gastroguard for a month.
She's already kept out 24/7 all year and only fed forage, no cereal, no soya etc. Behaviour only happens in the spring and summer... (and she has added magnesium too).
Bloody mares! hmm

Ladyformation Wed 24-May-17 08:52:42

I've only used it on one mare and it was very successful. Twas a while ago so don't remember how long she was on it, but it was one relatively long course then everything settled down and didn't ever need it again.

zombiemum123 Wed 24-May-17 09:39:08

I agree as much as I love her and when she's good she's amazing but no mares again, iv tried all the supplements etc, magnesium, Agnes cactus etc but got to the end of my tether and called the vets! I suppose it's one of those things that I'll have to try and see. I suspect ulcers but the vet not, i treat her as if she had ulcers with avoiding feeds etc, the thing is she's better out competing then she is is home and have got worse when we moved yards- previous yard was mixed herd now is separated into mates and geldings- you would think this would help but no- worse?!?! Give up and get a hamster? grin

zombiemum123 Wed 24-May-17 09:40:37

Ovaries not scooped think that's the next step if regumate is unsuccessful

zombiemum123 Wed 24-May-17 09:42:42

Baldricks I asked my vet about competing she seemed to think it was fine? I'll have to look into it as I compete quite a lot

DressageNut Wed 24-May-17 09:46:53

I tried it on one of my mares that was very herd-orientated and generally difficult (she had a clear idea of what she would and wouldn't do and stuck to it). Despite the scan picking up a lot of follicular activity - which prompted the vet to suggest it - it made very little difference. We then went down the lameness work-up route and again found very little, but that's a different story. Ultimately I think the issue was 99% down to her temperament - she didn't want to work with humans and wasn't willing to do so beyond a very limited extent so behaved accordingly.

BaldricksWife Wed 24-May-17 09:59:36

Hi Zombiemum, depends on which rules, we compete under Jockey Club but FEI may well allow it. Some of my fellow competitors swear by marbles but have never done this myself.

zombiemum123 Wed 24-May-17 10:06:18

She is a love on the ground- quite high in the pecking order but this causes no issues just like you say if she doesn't want to do something when ridden she throws a buck and a rear in- FUN angry. I suppose it's gonna be a process of trial and error.

zombiemum123 Wed 24-May-17 10:08:12

I did suggest marble to the vet but she is optimistic about regumate- I'm not so optimistic. We shall see I suppose

DraughtyWindow Thu 25-May-17 15:07:43

If it works, ask your vet for a prescription as it's far cheaper buying online. I think I even found some company that was cheaper than Viovet...let me know and I'll try and find it again.

zombiemum123 Thu 25-May-17 15:32:46

I told the vet initially that it is just too expensive and she prescribed porcine regumate and assured me it does the same job -for £66 I'm not complaining grin

DraughtyWindow Sat 27-May-17 09:50:40

...porcine Regumate is still cheaper if bought on the Internet!

zombiemum123 Sat 27-May-17 10:55:43

Oh wow really! I'll look into it! Thank you xx

Garnethair Sat 27-May-17 12:07:47

I feel the need to comment that most of the mares I've known can be absolute pigs, so that sounds about right smile

villainousbroodmare Sat 27-May-17 12:21:50

I'm a stud vet.
Virtually all mares come into season approx every three weeks all spring, summer and autumn long, unless they are in foal. They all have "follicular activity". They will show oestrous behaviour for four or five days out of 21.
Regumate, given daily, will usually convince the mare that she is in foal and should smooth out oestrous behaviour variability. You cannot compete under most rules on Regumate, so check that with the relevant authority if you are competing. Regumate should not be handled by pregnant women and in fact I always advise that it be administered by a man, or at least wearing gloves to dispense it.
Inserting a marble (basically a snooker sized glass ball) into the uterus can have the same effect and bypasses the competition rules. However, it is not very popular as the mare may just pop it out, or more likely it can be hard to retrieve it when you want to.
An animal living out all the time in a stable and peaceful social group and not under a heavy workload is unlikely to have a level of gastric ulceration which would cause the behaviour you describe. However, it's worth treating if it has been diagnosed.

villainousbroodmare Sat 27-May-17 12:32:27

Mares who are stabled in winter or living in mild climates may cycle all year.
It would be worth trying a different lowerfeeding regime and increased work schedule and a rider who takes absolutely no nonsense.

zombiemum123 Sat 27-May-17 12:33:50

Thanks so much for the info! The regumate has already started to work so I'm very pleased about that! So I think iv found my solution finally! Giving the regumate makes me a bit nervous to be honest especially as I'd like to get end of the year so I think see if she continues to improve and then think about marble. Does it have the same effect as regumate?

zombiemum123 Sat 27-May-17 12:35:41

Actually she has become worse in winter the last couple of years and that coincides with moving stables who have alternate turnout in winter so that's very interesting! Thank you

villainousbroodmare Sat 27-May-17 13:12:14

The marble should have the same effect as the Regumate. It has actually been used for hundreds of years apparently, by some ingenious camel drivers who used a smooth stone to even out their female camels' mood swings.

zombiemum123 Sat 27-May-17 13:38:29

Really wow! I'll definitely speak to my vet soon

Fireinthegrate Sat 27-May-17 14:26:08

I have just taken a mare on loan. She is on Lunar Eclipse from Simple Systems

www.simplesystemhorsefeeds.co.uk

I have only had the mare 3 weeks and have continued feeding the same as her owner has done. They have used it for the past 2 years and said it has made a big difference to her. Obviously I have not known the mare long and do not know what she is like without the supplement.

Might be worth taking a look at the link.

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