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Female behaviour 'gurus'... LIST THEM!

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Cat0115 Sat 18-Jan-20 21:51:33

As per title
.. I'm holding my breath here...!

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WhyNotMe40 Sat 18-Jan-20 21:52:17


Cat0115 Sat 18-Jan-20 21:54:58

Tapping foot.
Looking at watch...
Don't make me twirl my thumbs!

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LizzieVereker Sat 18-Jan-20 21:55:00

Does Sue Cowley count?

LizzieVereker Sat 18-Jan-20 21:55:55

Ooh wait, I know - NANNY MCPHEE!!!

BodenGate Sat 18-Jan-20 21:57:48

Jenny Moseley?

123bananas Sat 18-Jan-20 21:58:53

Nanny Plum - She's lots of fun ...

Cat0115 Sat 18-Jan-20 22:02:20

For excellent book title, yes. I mean whole school behaviour really.

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WhyNotMe40 Sat 18-Jan-20 22:02:34

Professor McGonagall

Cat0115 Sat 18-Jan-20 22:05:11

Jenny Moseley is more primary I think? I didn't specify secondary but that's what I'm thinking.. Sick of Dix!

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Xiaoxiong Sat 18-Jan-20 22:08:12


BodenGate Sat 18-Jan-20 22:34:52

Ah sorry! I don’t know any secondary. Is Sue Cowley both?

noblegiraffe Sun 19-Jan-20 00:57:14

Not many female gurus on anything in education despite it being a female-dominated profession.

Sue Cowley was secondary drama I think.

If you’re sick of Dix, why does it have to be female? There are good male non-Dix ones out there.

Cat0115 Sun 19-Jan-20 03:59:13

Noble, it just occurred to me that all the behaviour leads I've ever known are male and all the 'gurus' we've ever known are also male. I don't think wholesale adoption of 'solutions' is a good policy as it doesn't take individuals into account. Our problems are all with boys so I wondered if anyone had tackled this. My dept is all female bar one very tall and imposing man. smile

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Piggywaspushed Sun 19-Jan-20 09:05:34

Sue Cowley, definitely.

Getting The Buggers To Behave is fairly seminal. Not recent, though.

noblegiraffe Sun 19-Jan-20 10:38:19

Ah piggy you and I disagree over Getting the Buggers to Behave. It’s the dog food bit!

Although I did see Sue Cowley give a behaviour talk and she was pretty entertaining. She did the dog food bit and it didn’t sound as bad when she was saying it, but it did strike me as one of those ‘personality’ behaviour management tips. Being a maths teacher and not having a personality means I don’t get on so well with more flamboyant suggestions.

I like Tom Bennett because he insists that behaviour management advice shouldn’t rely on personality or charisma, and because he fully admits he was shit at behaviour management to start with and his classes ran wild till he figured it out. I also like that he puts responsibility for behaviour management on SLT and a whole school culture. I think that helps female teachers who can’t rely on being physically imposing.

Piggywaspushed Sun 19-Jan-20 10:48:20

Didn't say I agreed with it : it's just seen as a core behaviour text. And is pretty much unique in being written by a woman.

I also quite like TB but do think he is in denial that his presence and maleness have given him advantages.

I think OP is right that we could do with more female voices in behaviour management. I used to deliver training in this all the time and was then deposed by two males with loud voices... hmm

noblegiraffe Sun 19-Jan-20 10:55:05

We could do with more females in everything. I see quite a lot on twitter some male edu-voice with a prolific output posting a picture of them with a brand-new baby and thinking ‘there’s a woman behind them doing a lot of the heavy lifting’.

Our current behaviour lead is a male PE teacher. The previous one was a male PE teacher.

I was walking down a corridor once and some kids who weren’t meant to be there were walking towards me. I kept telling them to turn around and they totally ignored me and walked past. Then they spotted the male PE teacher behind me and without a word as a group turned around and went back the way they came.

Bloody male PE teachers don’t know they’re born.

Piggywaspushed Sun 19-Jan-20 10:59:42

Yup, sounds about right. They don't tend to be PE teachers at my place but otherwise it all applies.

NicelyStarched Sun 19-Jan-20 11:25:54

I agree, the dog food gimmick put me off Sue Cowley.

Did anyone read the post on the long thread last week about behaviour where a well meaning, concerned parent suggested that a female teacher should stand on a misbehaving child’s desk? I was about to butt in with my two pennies’ worth but restrained myself.

Piggywaspushed Sun 19-Jan-20 11:29:29


DrMadelineMaxwell Sun 19-Jan-20 11:33:04

Pffffff.... Jenny M came to our school. When doing a demo circle time with my tricky class she gave in. Then spent my lunchtime giving me feedback about how they had a 'broken dynamic'.
No. They just didn't like being called Angels and talked down to... just like our staff didn't during the training day.

noblegiraffe Sun 19-Jan-20 11:42:27

Our problems are all with boys so I wondered if anyone had tackled this.

Just thinking about this. Aren’t most behaviour management issues with boys? That Boys Don’t Try book is interesting, but also (obviously) written by men.

I find that whenever there’s talk about behaviour on MN someone comments about their grandmother who was a teacher for decades and despite being tiny and soft-spoken ruled the class with an iron will. Not very helpful!

Scarydinosaurs Sun 19-Jan-20 11:45:03

Jo Facer Simplicity Rules

Piggywaspushed Sun 19-Jan-20 12:12:59

That's not about behaviour though scary?

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