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How much non-contact time?

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EnglishHOD · 31/01/2018 18:30

Name changes... I’m just wondering if you’d be happy to share how many non-contacts teachers and heads of department/faculty get at your school? I think I’m on a lot less than local peers.
Thank you!

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Hugepeppapigfan · 03/02/2018 08:03

Primary teacher 2 hours PPA
Primary deputy 2 hours PPA plus 2 hours
Primary subject leader 2 hours PPA plus 0.

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Crackedbutstillshiny · 03/02/2018 08:31

Secondary + TLR as 2nd in dept = 6 periods. Not really enough to do both jobs properly.

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DumbledoresApprentice · 03/02/2018 09:03

Secondary-
classroom teachers 5/30 free
NQTs 8/30 free
HOD 7/30 free (although heads of Eng and Maths have an extra one or two)
AHT 14/30 free

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GHGN · 03/02/2018 09:51

Assuming state Heads of Core subject or faculty 8/25 free, teacher 4/25 and 2ic or small subjects 6/25.
Private: a lot more.

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franzen · 03/02/2018 09:55

Secondary
Teacher 2hrs PPA + 1hr (as last resort) standby cover
Faculty Head 2hrs PPA + 2hrs Senior staff cover + 3hrs free
Head of Department 2hrs PPA + 1hr standby cover + 3hrs free
2nd in department as above with 2hrs free

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SweetSummerchild · 03/02/2018 11:13

At my old school (state secondary):

Teacher: 8/50 of which 5 are PPA. Others can be used for cover (usually about 1)
HOD of large department: 11/50 of which 5 PPA and 2 are MLT.
HOD of small department: 9/50 (5 PPA, 1 MLT)
HOY: 15/50 (5 PPA, 2 MLT)

MLT can be taken as a last resort for cover if needed. Tutor period rotates throughout the timetable and tough sh*t if it falls in your PPA.

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MrsGuyOfGisbo · 03/02/2018 11:22

NQT 12/30 free. Next year will be 6/30

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MrsGuyOfGisbo · 03/02/2018 11:23

(Academy secondary)

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wingingatlife · 03/02/2018 11:37

I'm 3 days private Primary. I have 2.5 days in class, and half a day ppa.

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superram · 03/02/2018 11:40

Normal teacher 42/50 per fortnight. Hod is 39/50 core might be more.

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Piggywaspushed · 03/02/2018 12:03

Secondary : normal teacher 43/50 (technically 44 if not a tutor but that is never invoked it seems)

HOD of small dept or similar role 42 or 41

2nd in English / maths about 41

HOF 38 or 9 I think ; but they keep protesting and get given more and aren't tutors either

HOY 36

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CraftyGin · 03/02/2018 12:37

Secondary HOD here.

I teach 22/30 hours, so 8 hours “free”. I don’t have a form, which frees up another couple of hours. I only have 20 minutes of duty a week, and am at the bottom of the cover list (I have done two covers since September).

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TheFallenMadonna · 03/02/2018 12:43

When I was a Head of Core Subject I notionally taught 38/50. However, I was never fully staffed, so actually was timetabled for 45/50. The Head of English did do 38/50. Head of History/languages/PE did 42/50. Classroom teacher 45/50.

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Unicorndiscoball · 03/02/2018 12:47

I am a HoF and am timetabled to do 27/40. (Private through school) quite a lot of cover (at least weekly) also timetable is slightly lighter in recognition that each term I have large scale performances of various types throughout the year and use my ‘frees’ for masses of extra rehearsals with whichever year groups are involved.

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Fizzandpeanuts · 03/02/2018 15:35

10% if whatever your hours are, FT Teacher usually 2.5 hours a week for PPA

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physicskate · 03/02/2018 17:40

53/60 two week timetable. Independent secondary school. Not what I was told at interview. I've submitted my resignation...

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CraftyGin · 03/02/2018 19:33

What do you think us unreasonable, Kate, or what the school could do differently?

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physicskate · 03/02/2018 19:52

I teach until after 4pm every day. I teach an 87% timetable... It's completely unsustainable with all the marking and in depth planning required. I was told it was 'about 80% teaching' during my interview...

At many schools there are only 25 teaching hours possible in the week. So I am essentially teaching over 100% of that timetable...

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CraftyGin · 03/02/2018 20:38

But presumably you get 18/19 weeks holiday a year?

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CraftyGin · 03/02/2018 20:38

What should the school do differently?

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physicskate · 03/02/2018 21:29

What they told me at interview and what is reality are two different things. How is that such a problem with you craftygin?? Verbal instruction during negotiation form part of my contract. I was mislead in my teaching hours. Wouldn't that make you a bit peeved?

Why aren't you interrogating anyone else?? What is your problem with me?

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Jacobismygirl · 03/02/2018 21:33

Secondary....6 free periods out of 30

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Goldrill · 03/02/2018 21:48

Nqt secondary 40/50
Next year will be 45/50
Existing teachers in dept are 43/50

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EnglishHOD · 03/02/2018 23:18

Thank you all. This is helpful. @physicskate, I’m in a similar situation and feeling thoroughly helpless. I don’t want to resign as I love the job itself, but I’m bloody pissed off so tempted to. I’m sorry you’re going through it too. Have you spoken to union or anyone? I’d love to hear any advice you were given about it.

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